The Mighty Un-Cucked

The authentic insanity starts at 2:10 or so. I defy any “M”-endorsed rider to watch this without flinching or cringing multiple times. For me, the worst part was when I realized he was riding without gloves. I mean — sudden death on a bike? Sure, who gives a shit, sign me up tomorrow morning. But to bail at 100-plus onto your unprotected hands? Maybe I’ll drive to work after all.

I don’t endorse this fellow, his actions, or his approach to motorcycling. But I do endorse his attitude. It’s the same attitude I admired in the best BMX racers and street riders when I was younger. It’s the willingness to throw away years of your life in exchange for a few moments where you feel truly alive. It’s the belief that you can get through an impossible situation on the strength of your talent, your belief, your courage, and possibly your stupidity.

Modern Western society spends billions of dollars’ worth of money, time, and effort trying to destroy this kind of spirit in our young men, trying to turn them into feckless little feminist allies and/or obedient husbands. Then we wonder why the same women to whom we defer are willing to turn their backs on us even as they import millions of men from “primitive” cultures.

This young rider has the same kind of spirit that animated Audie Murphy or Alvin York or Manfred von Richthofen; the desire to be braver, bolder, more daring than his peers. Thankfully, there’s not much of a war for him to fight — not at the moment, anyway. The near future? That might be another matter altogether.

48 Replies to “The Mighty Un-Cucked”

  1. tresmonos

    I am beginning to draw a parallel between the facade of mental health / modern psychology and the demasculinization of society.

    You can have both, but it’s impossible to segregate behaviors, patterns, toys, etc. that have a negative connotation (usually as being dangerous or threatening) to those who now have power in society.

    It’s why my gun safe goes mobile during break ups, why I stop drinking during the same time frame and immediately seek a therapist. Then when I’m moved out and I’m financially separated, I quit therapy, start drinking and fuck anything that has a pulse.

    • -Nate-Nate

      “Anything masculine is forbidden–UNLESS A WOMAN DOES IT!”.
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      _Fuck_that_ .
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      Anything I choose to do becomes masculine by default .
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      -Nate

  2. Liquid

    Man videos like those are one of my favorite things. I’m 17 and here in south Ontario this is definitely a major problem. I try to only be around people who aren’t like this, but I remember being surrounded by them a couple years ago and I always felt out of place. Like the time I climbed up an 8ft ladder and started walking around the room on it and the entire class got extremely stressed out by it. One thing however, outside of the shop classes with like minded people the majority of my class mates have a desire to ride motorcycles, an interest in cars, or any kind of desire to not live a life sitting in front of a monitor. But unless your parents can support it or you have friends willing to bring you along no one would ever be able to afford it now or for years to come. I suddenly found myself being able to do some of these things last summer and pushed everything to the limit. The coolest thing in the student parking lot at my school is some girls Rebel 250 and a turbo diesel F350 work truck. Last year there was a srt4, Z32 NA, SE-R Spec V, and my friends FJ62.

  3. -Nate-Nate

    This twit is a stupid (if skilled) self absorbed fool who’s making things difficult for all the other Motocyclists out there .
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    There’s a time and place to let it all hang out but in traffic isn’t it .
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    Scaring/pissing off the general public serves no one any good .
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    I notice the lack of gloves before anything else as I’ve been riding 45 + years now .
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    I hope he doesn’t get hurt nor die a horrible pain filled death .
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    -Nate

    • yamahog

      The general public is a bunch of c**nts.

      I rode my bike to a political thing, some broad in a lincoln navigator blew a stop sign and almost splattered me on my SV650.

      30 minutes later, the same broad gets on stage and starts talking up “moms demand action” i.e “women who didn’t get abortions demand the state rounds up everything with a trigger”. She said, “honestly, who needs an assault weapon” as though a Lincoln Navigator and a cell phone glued the ear were no more luxury than she needed.

      It’s why I don’t go for ‘respectability politics’ how polite do motorcyclists have to be for inattentive drivers to put down the phones and pay attention? It’s not going to happen. I bet fewer than half the cars I blow by even notice my 30 mph closing speed.

      • -Nate-Nate

        Yes Yamadog they often are .
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        One of those clueless twits ran me over whilst I was waiting for a red light in 2008, basically I survived a fatal Moto collision ..
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        I still do what I do not because anyone else tells me to do so or not to do so .
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        I know it sucks but failure to be as reserved as you can every time (and it’s most of the time) yet another boob nearly kills you, doesn’t help us Motocyclists one bit .
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        -Nate

  4. aircooledTOM

    I don’t ride like this. I take risks, in my own way– dragging hard-parts on my sportster quite regularly, wheelying the shit out of it to the horror of onlookers, etc., but I cannot abide the way this guy grips his left handlebar. We have thumbs to hold onto shit. With my experience in the weight-room, I cringe whenever I see people gripping things without thumbs, anyone who’s seen a heavy bench press slip from a thumbless grip knows that the result is not pretty. Imagine a Philadelphia pothole at 130 kph with a thumbless grip on that clutch hand. I’m guessing an immediate and violent lowside.

    I do admire this guys balls, but he’s dumb as a bag of hammers, the stuff he was doing can be done much more safely. You can still get a rush like this without putting everyone in great danger with those kinds of closing speeds. Jack, you yourself have shared ways that one can speed quite safely. This was nothing like that. Plenty of cringing and flinching here.

    I may have been more “okay” with this if he had gloves on though. I do admit that my read on it was colored by his lack of PPE.

      • hank chinaski

        That and the cotton shirt and very likely jeans and sneakers. Why bother with the lid at that point? This was one of the mostly unspoken secrets leading to repealing helmet laws in FL: corpses are much, much cheaper than quads.

        I knew a guy in college with cojones not quite so large. Wheelchair at 20. He would have made quite the officer.

  5. Orenwolf

    My ancestors used to kill the losing captains at sporting events, and leaders of opposing armies in conflict, too. *There* was your masculine risk.

    I find it hilarious that the only idea of “masculine risk” is putting yourselves and others in harm’s way – as if the only way to be masculine *and* take risks is to be a dick.

    Good thing that’s not true – there are a plethora of actual constructive-but-dangerous-as-fuck things you can choose to do with your life that actually contributes to society if you derive your self-worth from how often you are in a life-or-death situation.

    You know, “real men”, as it were.

    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      Sure, but that is exactly what we are not talking about here.

      Strictly speaking, the most courageous and masculine thing you can do is get up and go to a job you hate every day so you can feed the children who are already asleep when you get home. That was the default mode of living for 95% of humanity for a very long time, whether it was farming or working in the mines. And I’m sure whatever tasks or professions you have in mind — oil-rig worker? combat medic? UN peacekeeper? hang-gliding instructor? — are all very admirable as well.

      The point is to do something dangerous and non-constructive, non-contributing, but also non-malicious. That’s the spirit that is being ground out of young men. This rider isn’t trying to harm anybody, although his actions are obviously negligent and/or stupid. He’s just trying to do the most outrageous thing he’s capable of doing. That’s an attitude worthy of being encouraged, not buried.

      • Orenwolf

        I guess it’s that “Being stupid and careless for the hell of it” has *never* been what I’ve identified in masculine men. Test pilots and even astronauts were, for many decades, considered some of the most “manly men”, but they had a purpose in their actions. Same with those serving in the military, or any of the other professions you refer to.

        So, yes, I agree – “being stupid because you can” is being ground out of modern society. But I wholeheartedly disagree that the attitude – “I’m going to do this dangerous-ass thing because no one else will / because I have the balls to” is going *nowhere*. Just those people are putting their efforts into more productive uses than risking life (intentionally or otherwise) for no reason other than “kicks”.

        I will argue, though, that modern life is giving us fewer reasons to risk yourself. Jobs *are* becoming less dangerous. We’re having fewer Chernobyl events where a few good men have to sacrifice their lives just because no one else will, and climbing the outside of skyscrapers or setting off roman candles in your hand, etc. are increasingly not only frowned upon but illegal. So yes, modern life is giving is less opportunity to take a potentially fatal risk “because you can”, but I don’t agree that the *attitude* is dying.

        • jz78817

          So, yes, I agree – “being stupid because you can” is being ground out of modern society.

          I’d say a lot of that has to do with the costs of healthcare. It’s really expensive to try to re-assemble some 19-year-old dickhead who hasn’t outgrown his “I’m invincible” phase and splattered his Gixxer on the back of a box truck. Just the ambulance roll sent to scrape him off of the pavement costs several hundred dollars. assuming he survives the total cost of emergency care, ICU, etc. would buy at least a couple very nice cars.

        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          Here’s the problem, Orenwolf. Every kid I knew in my youth who went on to serve in the military or in some other high-risk profession STARTED by doing things that were stupid and risky for no reason. I’m speaking from personal experience — I only went to college because I broke my neck before I could finish my senior year of high school and report to Parris Island.

          You’re proceeding as if we can raise prissy little snowflakes until they turn 21 then flip a switch in their heads and have them volunteer for a six-month stint on a nuclear submarine or a job as a test pilot in which they will be perfect danger robots.

          Furthermore, test pilots and astronauts did stupid stuff all the time. They did stupid stuff just as often as they did regular brave things.

          • jz78817

            what would your reaction be if this was John’s helmet-cam vid? would you be boasting about him not being a “prissy little snowflake” or thanking God that it didn’t end up with you being in an ER waiting room with someone in scrubs saying “I’m sorry, Mr. Baruth, but we did all we could.”

            We ALL take risks in our lives. some are pretty minor, some are pretty major. But you’re not a “prissy little snowflake” just because you decided not to commit felony reckless driving.

            and yes, that sort of driving causing injury or death to another person is a felony which can get you 15 years in PMITA prison.

          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            I wouldn’t want my son riding like this.

            But, to be fair, John will have opportunities to compete on a kart or motorcycle starting… well, already, he had four races in 2016.

            This kid’s out there doing this stuff for the same reason I did stupid stuff on a motorcycle: we weren’t brought up with the stuff and so when we took it up there was nobody to tell us what to do or offer a better alternative.

          • yamahog

            +1

            My uncle was a test pilot / astronaut and the guy brought the ruckus. Used to ride dirt bikes on the street, all the way up to my grandparent’s cabin back in the day. And he and my dad turned a construction site into a motocross track.

            A few years back, I got pulled over a gun point and stuffed in the back of a squad car because the officer couldn’t figure out how I got motorcycle plates for a moped (the answer – the engine was too big to qualify as a moped) and he thought it might be stolen. Even though the plates, vins, and insurance all matched and all pointed to the address on my driver’s license.

          • -Nate-Nate

            “A few years back, I got pulled over a gun point and stuffed in the back of a squad car because the officer couldn’t figure out how I got motorcycle plates for a moped (the answer – the engine was too big to qualify as a moped) and he thought it might be stolen. Even though the plates, vins, and insurance all matched and all pointed to the address on my driver’s license.”
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            This only proves that stupid cannot be fixed .
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            Too bad they gave him a gun and a badge .
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            -Nate

  6. jz78817

    “This rider isn’t trying to harm anybody”

    “I didn’t mean to” isn’t going to help him much after he plows over someone crossing the road.

  7. DirtRoads

    Couldn’t watch the whole thing. Made my hands cringe.

    Maybe the guy has never wrecked on pavement or rocks before. I clearly remember how that felt.

  8. Orenwolf

    I think, Jack, you will find that one of the primary drivers of Military service, other than the obvious patriotism, tends to be financial stability. Or do you think all those trust fund babies wrapping their exotic cars around bridge poles on the highway don’t have the right attitude?

    My (American) wife’s family was entirely involved in multiple aspects of the military, from the NRO to the Navy to the Marines. Their motivations were both financial and the path of least resistance – guaranteed work, and seeing their parents make it out the other side with honest-to-god careers in the private sector. *Way* better than taking your chances in school.

    My partner’s best friend joined the air force for the same reason – guaranteed income for the length of the contract, even though now, at the conclusion of said contract, pilot jobs suck and a career change is inevitable. But they have vastly more savings than they could have had otherwise.

    My brother-in-law talked all the time about the “blow shit up” types who joined the military because taking the risk was who they were – but as a result, they weren’t really interested in upward mobility. They made great troops, even specialized ones, but had little interest in being an officer. Fewer opportunities to blow shit (or people) up that way. Interestingly, he also talked about mild-mannered folk completely doing an 180 out there and realizing they WERE “blow shit up” types – which is one of the issues that, apparently, affects a lot of families when their soldier comes home and realizes they aren’t ok with who they were. They manage to perform just fine despite living a life of “snowflake safety”.

    I even considered joining the military in a tech capacity when I was younger – in part because back then, *that’s* where the technology was. And while my background was certainly coloured I valued my life more than taking stupid risks.

    Never underestimate the power of money and patriotism to convince the young and opportunity-less to serve their country. *Especially* if you can successfully frame as being necessary to the survival of the nation in question.

    • One Leg at a Time

      I know you caveat with ‘other than the obvious patriotism’, but that is like saying “other than the obvious splat on the ground, jumping off a building is quite calming.”

      I spent ten years doing all sorts of stuff in the navy, and I can say with confidence that financial stability is very low on the list of reasons why people join the military. Unless things have changed recently, recruiters do not even bring up the “financial stability” aspect of service unless a parent specifically asks.

      You seem to be a thoughtful commenter, so I assume that no offense was meant by referring to military service as “the path of least resistance”. I shan’t comment further on the matter.

  9. Dirty Dingus McGee

    Ah, to be young and invincible again. I would wager that any of us that rode a bike in our teens, did just as much dumb stuff, or more, as this guy. And there were a lot who didn’t survive, same as it is now..Some of us took a hard tumble, or 4, and eventually learned. These days my reaction time, eyesight and general desire to enjoy a future retirement, have slowed me down some. Some. I don’t white line as much, am happy to cruise at 80-90, no burnouts ($300 for a new tire will cure you of that) and no wheelies(800 lb bagger).

    “There are bold riders and there are old riders, but rarely are they both”.

  10. Kevin Jaeger

    I never did this kind of stuff in traffic but at that age we were into snowmobiles and dirt bikes where I lived. We probably took about the same level of risks but the risks were taken out in the woods where no one else was likely to be involved.

    I guess this type of stuff is what one should expect when the kids all grow up in an urban environment.

  11. arbuckle7809

    “Modern Western society spends billions of dollars’ worth of money, time, and effort trying to destroy this kind of spirit in our young men, trying to turn them into feckless little feminist allies and/or obedient husbands.”

    I’m not disagreeing, but how did that happen and why would society even want that in the first place?

    • don curton

      Uh, yeah. My thoughts too. I’ve seen way too F-350 duallys taking up a lane and a half and then intentionally swerve over to block someone trying to pass. That is, when the Ford driver wasn’t swerving through traffic like Mario Andretti with his ass on fire. Some of those closing speeds and especially passing between the car and guardrail would end in tragedy here in Texas.

    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      I’ve been thinking about getting my fifty jumps in, oddly enough — what’s keeping me from being a committed skydiver is the relative fragility of my knees and ankles. My running joke is that I’ll take up BASE jumping when I realize I have colon cancer.

  12. yamahog

    Society rejects this and young men tend to be the ones who violently reject society, dreaming up ever more elaborate and out of the ordinary ways to lash out which drives the media into a frenzy of “What does it MEAN” when someone goes out of their way to break the mold of the way media understands the rejection of society.

    Without getting any more TLP, I think some of it is narcissism. I’m a younger guy so I don’t know what it was like back in the day. But a GSXR and a lifted truck are interchangeable for a lot of the dudes my age (and one gets around better in the winter), and the dudes getting either/or isn’t going to make their testicles descend.

    IMO, the wussifcation of young men is entirely attributable to making men look outward for an affirmation of their masculinity or telling them that others can accept/reject it. Clamping down on the avenues to chase high-voltage, realer-than-real life with drugs (recreational, coffee/alcohol, or speed/velocity) or other short cuts is probably the reason we see so many young men embracing nationalism or pornography (in the TLP sense). Pornography/narcissism was always the backup plan for people who couldn’t chase life or handle it, but there are productive ways to chase life and young men might slowly discover lost virtues. In my neck of the woods, butchers are coming back, people are farming the earth like God intended (and not like Mosiac and Monsanto think farming should be done), there are people who do the honest to goodness work of turning crops into beer, and most of my friends work on their own cars/bikes or make their own furniture.

    I think we might see a resurgence of interest in honest, tangible work and yeah, we lose a lot of young men to bologna but we always did so that’s not some new peril and as a society, we should steer young men towards something productive rather than making it easy for them find themselves in consumption.

    Tl;dr If you gave every young man a GSXR and a license to speed, you’d still have cucks and I bet few people would be cured of a low-T mindset. Increasing the interest in making a ‘high-T’ life is going to fix things a redline shift into 3rd gear can’t (esp. for people who can’t hang the shift to 4th).

  13. Orenwolf

    YMMV, of course. I speak only of those I’ve known in recent times in the Military. Top reasons to join up: Service to Country, Guaranteed Education, Stable paycheck (and reduced expenses due to military housing, BX/PX access, etc).

    If I may suggest, perhaps one of the reasons your comrades-in-arms weren’t concerned about income says more about the living conditions of their families then versus now? Or do you honestly believe that there is no bias between class/financial status and those who choose to enlist?

    I have no doubt in my mind, from those I’ve spoken to both here and south of the border, that serving in the military was a way for many of these people to both perform a necessary public good, *and* get an education and stable paycheck, when for many of them no easy path to do so existed otherwise. And I’m sure that situation will only increase as jobs dry up and education costs continue to increase.

    And honestly, why shouldn’t it? Nearly everyone I know who came out of the military unscathed with any sort of education were disciplined, well-trained, desirable folks in the workforce. I have no doubt in my mind their task was a perilous and difficult one, but I think if you consider what *other* paths many people have to a few years of guaranteed education and income, it’s not difficult at all to see how this came to be.

    And again to be clear, I don’t even consider that to be a bad thing – let the people who want to enlist, do so. Far better than conscription after all. Let’s just not try and gloss over some of the possible motivations why.

    • Rock36

      I think you intended to reply to poster “One Leg at a Time”; however, my view tends to align more with his in terms of motivations for being in the military, but I would offer some nuance.

      There is difference between the reasons soldiers enlist initially and the reasons soldiers stay through multiple enlistments and/or ultimately choose the military as career. Soldiers who stay are often less motivated by the financial perks than other factors.

      Having spent 10 years in the navy, “one leg at a time” was exposed to more individuals who were serving at all places and times in their military career. I would offer your position is informed, in part, by the availability heuristic of the initial entry enlistees and short term enlistees you’ve described previously. It would skew your understanding of how the distribution of motivations change as you progress.

      The military is hierarchical (obviously) and distributed as a pyramid, i.e. there are orders of magnitude more Privates First Class than Sergeants First Class. If your motivation is fundamentally financial, or your approach is “the past of least resistance” your likelihood of making it to a senior NCO position decreases exponentially. There are exceptions to the rule and people obviously slip through the cracks, but after a certain point the military has the luxury of being increasingly selective of who they promote, especially in more specialized fields. Many would argue that salaries given to NCOs, especially senior NCOs, are not commensurate with the skills, workload, leadership, and dedication required of them. In light of this, the logic of a steady paycheck breaks down even further.

      The financial conditions and standards of living as the prima facie motivations for military service decreases as a function of time. This says nothing of the officer corps. That isn’t a refutation that many people initially list for financial reasons, but rather a reminder that the proportion of representative motivations for military service change over time, which I think is implicitly expressed by “One Leg at a Time”. The motivations aren’t simply replaced by patriotism as time goes on either. That thinking would have its own logic shortfalls, but I digress.

      Perhaps a better way of expressing this in a more abstract way: financial considerations are more tightly coupled with other motivations for initial/early military service, and become more loosely coupled as time in military service progresses. That would actually be a hypothesis for a good monograph topic if you were a social science academic type ha ha.

      Interestingly, the problem that the military is increasingly concerned about is not as much about the disproportionate representation of lower classes in enlistments, but the increasingly insular nature of the military. The number of people currently serving who have a direct family member (parents, siblings, children) also serving has increased dramatically since the incorporation of the all-volunteer force. The concern is that it is trending towards a distinct military class that increasingly risks being divorced from the rest of American society. This has negative implications for American civilian society and the institution of the military itself.

      That, however, is a completely separate topic that can and does fill massive studies on its own, so I won’t belabor that here as internet threads are prone to reductionism to include part of what I’ve written here. It is just an interesting aspect of military service that hasn’t really surfaced much in the mainstream yet.

    • Dan

      Yeah idk anyone on my Facebook feed who joined the military out of pure patriotism. Most wanted a combination of adventure/socially rewarded stable income, as far as I can tell. It was a calculated career choice.

      • One Leg at a Time

        I am not arguing that the ‘stable paycheck’ is not a consideration, but it is so low on the list, as to be ignored by recruiters. (The GI bill is another thing entirely, though. I know a lot of people who enlisted / did ROTC / entered the Academies as a means to pay for college.)

        Your comment on class (coupled with the GI Bill) touches on something that is becoming increasingly rare in (US) society at large – social mobility. A change of socio-economic class is something that was remarkably common in the US, in the past. The stratification of society, coupled with the trend towards including race into one’s social class has reduced those chances. The military offers a chance to change one’s ‘standing’ with minimal risk (the other chance to change one’s standing is entrepreneurship – but that is coming with increasing financial risk).

        In contrast – there are trades that can drastically impact one’s economic standing, but have little impact on social standing. Men and women working in plumbing / electrical / plant maintenance / automation are easily in the “upper middle-class” income bracket, but are definitely looked down on by most of the “educated” members of that group.

        I think the other driver of financial stability as an incentive for military members is that we were all educated on good financial management (on “company time” as it were…) If someone spends more than a year or two on active duty, they are surrounded by people whose definition of success involves terms like “debt to income ratio” and “long-term liquidity”. There is something to be said for understanding the impact of debt, and the value of delayed gratification.

        As far as the comments about what people hear from members in their facebook feeds, or from the soldier or sailor that they know – we are aware of society’s view of us: that patriotism is dead, or stupid, (or evil); that the only reason anyone would join is because they couldn’t afford (or get accepted into) college, or that they didn’t have any other options. Most military members over-emphasize the financial aspect because we know that people will respond to that positively. That is a discussion I have had with many of my veteran friends.

        How many of you have a friend who you studied with/sweated with/went drinking with, who is dead because of their life choices? And rather than feeling loss, or waste – you are proud of them and the decisions that they made? I walked my daughters up to the Marine Corps monument in DC, and said his name. You might respect that, but you will never understand it – so it is easier to point at a steady paycheck.

  14. Dr. Ribs

    In some perverse way that looked fun. Gotta admit though I was picketed and cringed through half of it. Do I ride like that… no. Does my mind feel like I’m riding like that when I wind out the throttle on an open stretch of highway or blasting out out of a well executed well executed sweeper hell yes!

    Appreciate the analysis Jack!

  15. Orenwolf

    Rock36, thanks for your response and insights. I’m sure on reflection your experience is probably pretty common – for many careers, the reasons one chooses to enter a given career or vocation, and the reasons for staying, especially as the years turn into decades, are surely different.

    The one thing of which, IMHO, there’s no question, is that anyone entering a potentially dangerous career path or calling, then remaining there for years on end, deserves not only our respect but to be called out as a role model for the very sort of “adventurous spirit” that Jack calls out in his article.

  16. -Nate-Nate

    I have a houseful of Teenaged Foster Boys, mostly Black and a good percentage of them view Military Service as a ticket out of The Ghetto and a chance to see the world and possibly advance in their lives ~ an opportunity they’d be hard pressed to find staying close to home .
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    The realization that they came to us because of a lack of discipline too makes them think they’d benefit from at least one hitch . (most Children crave rules and limits, why they howl so much when you make them toe the line)
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    Although the pay is steady, the fact is : Military pay sucks and is embarrassing as it’s less than minimum wages and almost all Enlisted Personnel with Families need at the very least, food stamps to get by .
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    A good thread here methinks .
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    -Nate

    • baconator

      Taking care of teenage foster boys is one of the most manly things I can think of. Takes some serious fortitude. Kudos to you!

    • -Nate-Nate

      Oh great ~
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      You _know_ I like to drive those tiny stupid old Foreign cars, now how the hell will I get my swelled head in the door ? .
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      Seriously folks : I’m nothing special, I am simply keenly aware of the help and breaks given to me when I was a wild youth headed for an early grave, now it’s my turn to lend a helping hand .
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      SWMBO is who began taking in the Foster boys, before I met her, I’m just along for the ride although it’s nice when they come back years later and thank me for talking to them without any B.S. .
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      To – day I was talking to one who’s planning to sign up when he graduates High School ~ he was thinking Army or Marines, we talked about all the various branches so he doesn’t make the jump before leaning the various pluses and minuses of each branch .
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      The amount of teaching, coaching and ass kicking (hey I was a dumbshit slow learner) Veterans gave me was awesome .
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      -Nate

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