(Last) Weekly Roundup: I’m The Type Of Guy To Say My Lower Back Is Killin’ Me

Somehow I survived our trip to Woodward. Even got the (not so) old Haro FST off the ground in various places around the park. Pulled a few X-ups over the small box ramps, that sort of thing. John did great as well — he was very brave about the various obstacles and he actually jumped off the top of the 12 foot resi ramp, sliding all the way to halfway up the other side.

The only injury either of us sustained: I fell on some ice outdoors and cracked my head pretty hard, after the parks were closed. Makes sense; I’ve never left Woodward uninjured. And my back hurts so much I can’t stand or walk without pain. It was too bad to sleep after the first day but I wasn’t gonna not ride just because of that. So now it’s much worse. So what.

Click the jump to see what Bark and I wrote last week, hurting nothing but a few feelings along the way.


Brother Bark recommended a sedan and slapped Ford on the wrist.

At R&T, I sobbed over the loss of Victory motorcycles and wondered why anybody would even enter the car business.

For TTAC, I took a sociological look at the Honda Odyssey, told a tale of witnessing an intervention, and asked the readers how they’d choose a “quickest vehicle”.

That’s all, folks!

31 Replies to “(Last) Weekly Roundup: I’m The Type Of Guy To Say My Lower Back Is Killin’ Me”

  1. MrGreenMan

    It would have been more fun if you’d made recommendations on the quickiest vehicle. Hopefully at some point Motortrend will invent a brand new metric so the 0-60, 60-100, and quarter mile camps can join hands in hating it.

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  2. Martin

    I really liked the Odyssey piece, and it brought some interesting discussion in the comments about various societal changes that have increased the ‘value’ of children in certain ways.

    But it hit sort of close to home (I own an Odyssey and am upper-middle class), and I think you were a little unfair in one respect: the alternative conveyance to the Odyssey is undoubtedly a large SUV/CUV that is ridiculously more expensive, less fuel efficient, less practical and more ostentatious, and also includes all the creature comforts / pampering of the Odyssey. Which would you rather they owned? There is always a bit of humility that comes from driving a minivan, no matter how well appointed.

    Also, this idea of the Odyssey where parents can cocoon their children so they don’t have to talk to them at odds with the idea of helicopter parenting? The parents who are always hovering over their children, trying to turn them into the perfect specimens of late American republic mandarins? This seems more the type of this purported cohort.

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    • James

      My children (who are 4 years old) shriek at me from the backseat of my 230. Driving an Odyssey would be much quieter.

      I ignore my children, as all good parents do, but I don’t have the right equipment to cocoon them–so they are noisy and skiing. Conversely, a helicopter parent can’t serve his imperial child while driving, and therefore needs to delegate his duty to the vehicle itself.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      All good points. Of course I favor the Odyssey over something like a Toyota Sequoia for all the obvious reasons.

      The question is what it means when we have all these parents deliberately isolating themselves from their kids. And it’s not necessarily contradictory for the helicopter parents to avoid their kids in the car. Helicopter parents like well-planned, thoroughly structured interactions and choices. Driving around with your kid, talking about whatever comes to mind, is the opposite of that.

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  3. ZG

    Jack, I want to preface this comment with the statement that I enjoy reading what you have to write. Although I occasionally disagree with the opinions you present, I always appreciate the fact that you seem to be a smart person who has taken the time to subject his opinions and biases to a logical examination. With that said, this week you wrote something so vile, backward and repugnant that I felt I had to comment. In your R&T article on Victory, you wrote the following:

    “You can’t tell me that the Regal was superior to the Intrigue”

    On behalf of all former and current Regal owners, I am compelled to take you to task for suggesting that a rational person would chose the flaccid, brittle “Shortstar” over the mighty supercharged thrust of the Regal GS!

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      Sir, I accept your rebuke.

      To me, the perfect GM G-body would have combined the Regal’s mighty blown 3800 with the Intrigue’s sleek styling.

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      • ZG

        Did the Intrigue have a decent interior? I’m guessing no because it was made by GM in the early 2000s, but that was one area where my Regal was really weak. It was only 5 years old when I bought it (for $5000 as a high school senior) but the interior was already worn the F out. I occasionally look them up on Ebay or Craigslist and I’ve yet to see one where the interior isn’t totally trashed.

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        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          It wasn’t great, but it was better than the rest of the GM brands. There was a unified aesthetic and some effort was put into the touch and feel of the materials.

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  4. jz78817

    the Victory piece goes hand-in-hand with your earlier article here: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a30324/the-case-for-the-four-wheeled-motorcycle/

    Harley basically sells you the two-wheeled equivalent of a 1970 Charger 440. Looks for all the world like the Shovelheads they were selling in the ’70s, but doesn’t leak oil, starts every time, and can stop a lot faster. Indian takes that a step further and gives you a modernized two-wheeled equivalent of a ’57 Chevy Bel Air.

    Victory? Victory seemed to be offering the equivalent of that Challenger “Shakedown” concept at SEMA and NAIAS 2017. It looks like a ’70 Challenger, but with a lot of modern styling touches and just looks like a tryhard. And the problem is that you could get the same thing from Yamaha, Honda, and Kawasaki.

    what’s definitely true is that both Polaris and Harley are going to be up a creek once their current customer base dies off, unless they can move the needle and start putting out other kinds of bikes and convincing people to buy them.

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    • Eric H

      They sure will be up the creek.
      When their current base dies off all those seldom-ridden, pampered bikes will be available used and suit any new customers just fine.

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    • yamahog

      “what’s definitely true is that both Polaris and Harley are going to be up a creek once their current customer base dies off”

      Yeah, no kidding. I thought I could add some context from the ground –

      I’m in my mid-20s and I’ve gotten 3 of my friends to start riding bikes. Not a single one of them could afford a Harley so all of them are on Yamahas/Hondas that they LOVE. Yamaha and Honda made good bikes that held together well and now they’re pleasing the 3rd/4th owners, creating good memories and brand equity. I’m sure some people will get Harleys and Harley makes bikes that are more competitive than ever. But Harley hasn’t shown the ability to compete in a segment that any other manufacturer takes seriously except maybe the muscle bike segment with the V-Rod but most harley fans don’t like that and most people agree the Diavel and V-max are better bikes.

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  5. C Keith

    I really liked both pieces you did for R&T, last year we bought two new cars to use for the next 7 or 8 years. A Porsche Cayman and a Jeep Wrangler, the Cayman as a DD and the Jeep for loging roads, and all I can say it is nice to have engaging cars to drive once more.

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  6. Dirty Dingus McGee

    I’ve ridden a couple of Victory’s over the years. 9-10 years ago went into the local dealer with a friend, and they were literally throwing keys at us to convince us to take a test ride, What the hell, burn somebody else’s gas for a few miles. Ended up on, IIRC. an 8-ball (similar in size to a Harley Superglide). Bike handled well, had good acceleration and was as comfortable as that style of bike is (I own an 87 FXR Harley and have knocked out 800 miles in a day on it several times). About 5 years ago I took a bagger out for a test ride. The ergonomics on that took a bit more time to get used to (main ride at that time was a RoadKing with police faring and seat). The styling took a bit more to get used to. The fairing worked well, just looked kinda funky.

    Things I heard owners grumble about; Lack of aftermarket accessories (compared to HD), higher cost of maintenance and repair parts, and a lack of independent shops that were familiar with the bikes.

    Hate to see them go, but the writing was on the wall when Polaris acquired the Indian brand.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      As far as I can tell, it’s only a problem for Feedly users. The spam doesn’t appear in the RSS feed from my site directly, and doesn’t appear in other readers like Digg et al. I have no idea what’s happening; the site has been completely ground-up reinstalled in the past week. Not a single binary or script remains from the old install. Are you a non-Feedly user who is seeing the spam?

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  7. Deadweight

    Quick, totally unrelated, off-topic question that has provoked my inquisitive nature:

    Why does the Establishment (big E) so hehellll bent on painting Russia as some sort of imminent, long-standing, and even existential threat to The United States of America?

    I’m an educated person (I believe, not just formally in terms of a bachelors and doctorate degree, but also in terms of consuming a great deal of current geopolitical information from respected sources), and I’ve evaluated this issue/question especially in the wake of the election (I did not vote for either Trump or Clinton), and have a difficult time reconciling the seeming foregone conclusion by the Establishment that Russia is a bigger threat (or as big of a threat, for that matter and more importantly) than China (as just one example) .

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    • Deadweight

      That second paragraph should read:

      Why is the Establishment (big E) so hell bent on painting Russia as some sort of imminent, long-standing, and even existential threat to The United States of America?

      (Edit function, stat, Jack/Mark)

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    • jz78817

      a lot of people made a good bit of money when we had the duopoly of the US and its big Soviet bogeyman. apparently the Cold War is what Made Us Great and we need another one.

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      • hank chinaski

        And its citizenry under control: Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
        The lame duck session troop movements are particularly disturbing.

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  8. Orenwolf

    Nope, using Feedly to sync RSS (but not their app, to a third party app).

    So strange. It’s *only* happening to this feed out of almost a hundred.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      I can “fix” it for sure by not using HTML tags in the header. Might just do that in the short term.

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  9. Ark-med

    Well, it’s time to make America great again, and to signal the end of Orwellian Victory coffee, cigarettes and mo’orsickles.

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