Sometimes A Great Notion, Sometimes Not

This 1973 Camaro, currently on eBay at 15,500 Buy It Now, is preying on my mind a bit. For what it is — a largely unadorned take on Sergio Pininfarina’s favorite American car. From 1970 to 2003 or thereabouts, the Camaro managed this utterly hilarious trick of being an utterly gorgeous and outrageous car which earned your contempt through mere ubiquitous familiarity. A 1973 Camaro… a 1982 Camaro… a 1994 Camaro… with a Ferrari badge and a production volume of 500 a year… can you imagine how people would go crazy over it? A few months ago, we had the Pegasus Firebird in Hagerty’s Traverse City home office and it was just different enough to make you see what you should have seen all along: the second-generation F-body was America’s 250GTO.

Mercifully free of the hockey-puck black plastic which came to define the interiors of the equally striking third-and-fourth-generation cars, this Camaro is gorgeous, exotic, and quite unusual with its rare opera windows. Yes, they are deservedly rare, perhaps, but with forty-five years’ worth of perspective I can appreciate them both aesthetically and functionally. I’ve driven a few of these cars and you need all the rear-quarter vision you can get.

As much as I love it for what it is, I also adore our opera-windowed ’73 for what it represents.

Camaro with opera windows

We can learn a lot about a society from its artifacts. What does an automatic-transmission, zero-performance-options, vinyl-roof Camaro tell us about 1973? Well, I think it tells a story about community. This is a pretty limited-function vehicle. Two people comfortably, four in a pinch, about as much luggage capacity as a non-liftback Honda Civic of the same era, which is not say not much. It doesn’t go anywhere in more than about two inches of snow, maybe four if you put chains on. Not cheap and not that economical.

The person who bought this car did so because he (more likely she) liked the looks of the thing. It was an era where most people could rely on being able to get a little bit of help from their neighbors if they needed it. Outside of certain places in New York (like where Kitty Genovese lived apparently) and various slum towns scattered around the country, most people had a certain expectation of friendly interaction with the people around them. They hadn’t yet invented “social distancing”, nor had they been gifted with a pandemic which conveniently validates the urban ethic of living alone in a shoebox with zero valid relationships and no interactions besides bartending and Tinder.

It wasn’t expected to last forever, because it wasn’t financed forever. It wasn’t expected to be perfect, because there were plenty of people who were able to fix it. It probably spent a lot of its life with the windows down. It wasn’t designed to disconnect its driver from the rest of humanity. It wasn’t a 2.5-ton box designed to convey nothing but a bland sense of privileged menace. Last but not least, it certainly wasn’t electric and it certainly wasn’t a political statement.

In other words, it was a car and not a piece of plastic consumerist shit. Therefore, I like it.

The current Camaro is a wickedly competent automobile and in some variants, like the ZL1 1LE, it is almost unimaginably brilliant to operate at ridiculous speeds. But it’s a long way from the purity and purpose of this no-spoilers ’73. Most of the fast Camaros I see nowadays mostly live in garages and on trailers being towed by Chevrolet trucks. Only in 2020 does it seem reasonable for normal people to own something as offensively overqualified as today’s Silverado. It is just about the opposite of the 1973 Camaro and in none of its opposite qualities is it lovable or admirable.

And yet.

Today, Danger Girl asked me to go get a freezer. So we can lengthen the period of our comet-like interactions with the rest of humanity. As you can imagine, we were the last family in Ohio to have this idea. All the freezers are gone. DG found a ragged little scratch-and-dent appliance shop in the Somali section of Columbus which had a few battered Chinese-made thirteen-cubic-foot Frigidaires. Made in China, of course. The Ohio-built Whirlpools disappeared on Day One And A Half of The Flu Which Dare Not Speak Its Name.

Freezer delivery is not a remotely likely concept right now. It fell to me to fire up the 6.2-liter Silverado, our sixty-thousand-dollar monument to suburban consumption. Which hadn’t moved in a long time but which started on the first crank and whisked me at 80 miles per hour to the appropriate freeway exit. Could have done it in the rain, in eight inches of snow. Had a road been closed, I could have detoured over some mild terrain.

At the appliance store, two sad-faced fellows around my age in polyester slacks rolled the dented freezer out to my truck and I tilted it in myself with no difficulty. The bed’s expensive Rhino-ish coating did not mind a 191-pound, five-foot-ten upright box dragging along its surface. Drove it home at full speed with no concern, backed up and over an eight-inch curb, and we carried it in to its place. Couldn’t have been easier. In a 1973 Camaro, this sort of thing is an epic tale for the ages. Would have taken an immense amount of time and effort and muscular shoulder-height lifting and intricate tying-down, followed by a thirty-mile-per-hour surface-street slog with a limo driver’s attention to brake and accelerator pressure and a constant gnawing worry that it will all go desperately wrong in a heartbeat. In the Silverado, it’s literally no trouble. We have the right vehicle for The Current Year. I could deliver freezers all day and get 21mpg doing so. Is this a good thing?

I got my first pickup in 1995 — a dark-green F-150XL straight-six, vinyl-seat, regular-cab demonstrator from my job, followed by a couple other F-150s of slightly more enviable specification. A few years later, I bought a 2000 Nissan Frontier King Cab. My years with those trucks were continually punctuated by days where the pickup du jour and I helped someone move something to somewhere. When I shucked off the King Cab for a Land Rover Discovery eighteen months after buying it, I breathed a sigh of relief that I was out of the moving business.

The Silverado is massively more capable than any of those humble little trucks — but only once in 33 months of ownership has it been used for any purpose but mine. An old Bolivian pal of mine borrowed it for a day, the same way he used to borrow my Frontier. Nobody else has asked. My neighbors don’t have anything like my truck, but time and again I see them bringing furniture home in their Highlanders and Escapes with the tailgate up and a big box hanging precariously out. I suppose we are no longer a society which borrows trucks. Maybe because they cost too much. Maybe because we don’t talk to our neighbors the way we used to. Maybe because I’m a miserable prick who looks like Kevin Gage and who wears sunglasses indoors. When all of this social-distancing business is done with, I’m going to make sure everybody knows they are invited to borrow my truck. Alternately, perhaps I’ll sell it and buy a 1973 Camaro.

39 Replies to “Sometimes A Great Notion, Sometimes Not”

  1. AvatarNick D

    Until I got my own truck, I found it reasonably easy to borrow them whenever I needed to by following one simple trick – returning it with far more gas than it left with (usually a full tank, but one friend had the extendo range tank and always was at 1/8th full) and vacuumed.

    The CUV owners need to justify the tall wagon by proving it sort of works for hauling, in the same way a 240 wagon or Honda Fit works for hauling.

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    • AvatarMsavio11

      I likely could’ve fit the same freezer in the back of my ’93 240 with nearly as much ease as Jack’s truck; might’ve had to unscrew the door. Would’ve even had a lower lift over height and if it was raining, no chance of it getting wet. Love my real wagon.

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  2. AvatarRobert

    I never knew that came like this, what a gorgeous and unique car. I’ve been a life long fan of F bodies due to my older brothers serial ownership of a 68 Camaro (burned to the ground), 78 Bandit trans am (sold due to first wife and child difficulties, not necessarily in that order), and 88 Rally Sport, which could not beat my 90 Nissan Hardbody with the 4 speed and stick shift in a drag race.

    Later I partook of a 98 firebird, with t-tops like my brother’s 78 had. They also leaked like a sieve, just like my brother’s 78 did. They had 20 years and two generations to solve the leaking t top problem, but they didn’t solve a thing. And then you couldn’t buy them anymore. GM stopped trying and the customers stopped caring. Or maybe it was the other way around. A shame either way.

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    • AvatarJohn C.

      I know the car mags couldn’t be bothered to test it, But the port injected 2.8 Camaro that came starting in 1985 and was standard starting 1986 was quite a capable base engine that would have had no trouble with your Nissan truck.

      That may sound weird to you but if you think about it you will be convinced. I know you are easy to convince because old Buick guy Gerry Hershberg went to Nissan and deftly convinced the import crowd that their trucks had hard bodies as a way to counteract the suddenly much more substantive domestic compact pickups. People that will buy that will buy anything.

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      • AvatarJosh Howard

        The “Hardbody” got its name because of the double walled steel used in the bed. I always has half the number of dings in my truck as my friends who had domestic compact trucks. That, and the ridge that ran down the body did wonders to prevent panel warpage.

        It wasn’t just “an old buick guy” convincing people. It was good design that actually worked.

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          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            John, you might actually be tickled by this.

            All of the original Japanese compact pickups had single-wall beds with rolled lips and a crude but effective double-clamp arrangement that locked the tailgate by basically pulling the flexible bed walls in to the tailgate.

            It became apparent almost immediately that this state of affairs wouldn’t cut the mustard in the United States — not because the single-wall beds didn’t work, but because they looked like shit almost immediately, with dents on the inside being reflected on the outside.

            So Toyota and Nissan hired American suppliers to make bolt-on double-wall beds for their trucks until they could get American production for the whole truck up and running. Therefore, there was a period of a few years where these trucks came over as chassis-cabs and got their American double-wall beds installed here. Sometimes the American bed suppliers couldn’t keep up, and the dealers would have trucks with BOTH kinds of beds on the lot. The Japanese ones were impossible to sell.

            At the same time, the American suppliers were properly rustproofing the beds. So you’d have a situation where you’d see a Toyota truck with everything BUT the bed rusted through to clear air.

            The first time I went to Malaysia I was astounded to see modern Isuzu trucks (basically our Chevy Colorado) with what looked like rolled-lip single-wall beds on them. So I did some investigating. Turns out that the rest of the world never really cottoned to the idea of double-wall bed. But the double-walls are indisputably superior in hard use. So they now have to make double-wall beds that LOOK like single-wall beds with the rolled lip.

            So the perfect compact truck turns out to be a hybrid of Japanese and American ideas.

          • AvatarJohn C.

            Interesting stuff Jack thanks. One thing in favor of their small trucks is that it was something they were doing for themselves that then found a wider market. Then that wider market demands changes and ruins them in terms of the original purpose.

            The Malaysian specials you mentioned probably had to save weight. It is a safe bet you would have found a much smaller engine under the hood than the 2.7 four American Colorados had

          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            Believe it or not they use 3.0 turbo diesels chipped to 400-plus horsepower. Its insane. They are like mini “bro dozers” and I lost more than one freeway pull against them driving a C43 Benz.

          • AvatarJohn C.

            That is not what I would have expected. It is my understanding that there are a big minority of heritage Chinese there left over there from the British days who have most of the money. If you noticed, were the folks driving the Isuzus Chinese or Malayan? If things there are like they were in the early days of independence, the old Sultan aristocracy was extracting a lot of money from the Chinese to be left alone, creating a formula for brodozers among Malayans.

  3. AvatarLynnG

    “It wasn’t expected to last forever, because it wasn’t financed forever”
    True, Jack, but you forget the Carter Years of Inflation. My first new 1975 Firebird TA stickered for $4,000 my last new 1981 Firebird TA stickered for $10,000. Prices were going up at an alarming rate. Financing went from 24 months to 48 months just to keep the payments reasonable. Now some people (Jack???) finance their $75,000 pickups for 84 months. Its crazy. If you do not have a big down payment or have a paid for three year old car/truck to trade in, car/truck payments approach house payments.

    Oh as a side bar, that 1973 Camero has got, A/C (which was not common on Chevys in 1973 outside of a Caprice), deluxe wheel covers, Front Bumper Guards, Body Side Molding, courtsey light package, Sound deading, Apparently a factory AM/FM, Automatic Transmission, vinyl top, and apparently a 350ci V-8 and your opear windows (in 47 years never seen on with that option on any Camaro). Fairly nicely optioned sectretary special.

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    • AvatarOne Leg at a Time

      Does “first” and “last” imply a “middle”?

      Even if not, I admire the purity of purpose (or brand loyalty) that you would go from a Malaise era Firebird to a new one six years later.

      Either of those would have been dream cars for me as a youth.

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      • AvatarLynnG

        One Leg at a time, Brand Loyality… Loved that Pontiac had better handling then Chevy or Buick…. Owned a string of Firebirds 75-77-79-81 all a different color and never black… Did not like the 82 redesign and asmatic motors. Went to look at a new 82 TA at Gilman Pontac in 1981 raised the hood and it flexed in my hand. Put the hood down and walked away. Moved over to Corvette in 82 and did not look back for another decade, thought the 84 Corvette Z51 almost caused me to quite GM. But they made significant improvements by 86.

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  4. AvatarNewbie Jeff

    Well done, Jack. Guys like me, and I’m sure others here, appreciate all that that car is, and is not. Most my age and younger wouldn’t notice it… many would hate it because it lacks screens, backup cameras, a port to play shitty music from your smart device, and an automatic brake application feature to prevent you from plowing into other cars when you’re looking at your smart device instead of the road. That’s the path of progress… that we gave up a lot of what a car really is to ensure we were always, always safe… Such progress will surely continue, until we surrender the actual act of driving itself, so that we’re always, always safe. Think of the lives saved, and the lives we’ll save… bypass every risk, forfeit every choice, remove the human element, flatten the curve, safer at home!

    I guess I’m not talking about Camaros anymore… I ate at my last restaurant today, for what looks to be a good long time. Our governor finally caved to the immense political pressure and shut down our state. The restaurants and businesses in my little town that were hanging on by a thread are officially toast now. What exactly is “non-essential travel”? What is a “non-essential business”? How is all of this enforced?

    I think most coherent people sensed the more pessimistic inevitability of our society pre-virus… the sewage of modern politics… the despicable viciousness of “activism”… a brainless, duplicitous, propagandist media… our out-of-control public spending… the squandering of our prosperity… and worse, the overall indifference to it. But personally, I never would have guessed the tipping point would have been the vast majority of Americans hiding indoors and from each other instead of taking their chances with a virus and its apocalyptic 98-99% survival rate…

    We had it so good, and we destroyed it in a matter of weeks. But I guess we’re safe.

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    • AvatarEric L.

      Screaming at the ones we love
      Like we forgot who we can trust
      Screaming at the top of our lungs
      On the grounds where we feel safe
      Do we feel safe? Do we feel safe?

      Hush, my baby, make no sound
      Maybe we can wait each other out
      It’s a cold war
      Let’s go to war

      – Nothing More, Go To War

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    • AvatarEconomist

      Yeah there’s a quote somewhere about liberty and safety. But it was probably written in cursive by an old white guy so whatever.

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  5. AvatarRyan

    My dad sent me that Camaro the other day. Cars like that are cool because they’re indicative of what most people owned in the era. For every Z28 or Trans Am on the road, there were probably 5 LTs or Esprits.

    As for the truck thing, I never truly understood it until I owned one. For years, I had either a small SUV (XJ/Blazer) or sedan (W-Body/Panther) as a DD. My dad had an endless rotation of Super Duty company trucks, and eventually bought one of his own. I put a lot of miles on his truck moving things, but rarely was it used for something other than a trip up north or to haul a bunch of shit.

    Before I bought the Silverado, I looked at a JL and a ZR2. Both were decent enough and the ZR2 could tow enough with the diesel. After test driving them all, nothing compared to the big truck.

    While I wish I could’ve found a long bed with a 6.2, I have no complaints. The thing will haul my 20’ enclosed without complaint and eats freeway miles almost as well as the Vette. Most importantly, truck is much better on my 80+ mile commute than most of our pool cars (at least anything smaller than an S-Class).

    It probably doesn’t need repeated here, but there’s not much compromise in a truck these days.

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    • AvatarEric L.

      It’s disturbing that my 15-year-old, 260 lb*ft torque 3.5L Nissan V6 averages 13.5 MPG (with most shifts happening at 7K RPM, because why not?) in a 3500 lb sedan, yet those monster trucks can now pull down 21 in mixed driving.

      The 2008 F-350 4×4 service truck I drove at Penske averaged just over 8 MPG, per the gauge cluster–it had a full complement of air compressors, tools, etc. in the bed, and the plow mount stayed on ‘year round. Mechanical engineers, I salute you for how much performance you’ve wrung out of trucks in the past decade.

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      • AvatarRyan

        Funny enough, my dad’s line of F-250s were all from his days as a National Account rep for Goodyear/Wingfoot, mostly servicing Penske yards. I pretty much grew up in the service bay and bumping yards on Saturday mornings. In a way, I kind of miss those days.

        Gas never mattered because it was the 90s and company use was permitted. We drove those damn trucks everywhere, hauling shit up north, hockey tournaments, etc. They were all white with blue vinyl interior, rubber floors, and an AM/FM radio. Most were 2wd. Sometimes, I can still smell the combination of rubber, cigar smoke, and Ozium.

        Eventually he worked for a family-owned company out of Ohio and had a mid-trim Dodge and eventually a Sierra Denali. That thing was like a space ship compared to the OBS Ford, but it was nowhere as cool.

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  6. Avatarstingray65

    The 1970s were a funny era. GM built the C3 Corvette from 1968 (which was mostly a new body on the C2 chassis) until 1982, and each year it generally got heavier, slower, and more expensive due to tightening emissions and safety standards, but sold with higher and higher volume. The 2nd Gen F-Body was one of the most beautiful cars ever made in America when it came out in 1970.5, but they didn’t sell very well until the mid-70s after their beautiful lines have been polluted by big clunky bumpers (Pontiac did it better on the Firebird), and their frisky engines were replaced by fuel thirsty, but low performance smog motors. No wonder GM kept making them until 1981 – the worse they got the better they sold.

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    • AvatarJohn C.

      If only we had a people here in America worthy of our elite opinion or that Sergio guy in Italy, all those sales would have never happened, Instead Colts, 610s and Coronas could have taken their place with that sexy sexy Japanese mini hardtop styling and Stingray would feel so much better…

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      • Avatarstingray65

        I was a teenager during the 1970s, and Japanese cars by and large sucked back then – yes they were obviously well built, and Toyotas seemed to be reliable (Honda not so much), but they all rusted with a vengeance and seemed likely to fold up like a cheap card table in an accident. The Europeans were a mixed bag, English stuff was poorly built and unreliable but usually nicely styled with some interesting engineering. The Italians rusted as badly as the Japanese but without the mechanical reliability, and the French were worse than the Italians. Only the Germans made nicely engineered and well built cars (with a few exceptions such as the early Rabbits), but the exchange rate made them extremely expensive. So in the 1970s the American brands really didn’t yet have strong foreign competition in the profitable segments of the market, and GM’s share stayed strong throughout the decade.

        My dream cars back then were generally not foreign, but American cars from the 50s and 60s, when they were generally well built, beautifully styled, bulletproof mechanically, and potentially very quick with the right engine options. Thus if I had won the lottery on my 16th birthday I would have gone looking for a nice used C2 Corvette, 69-71 Camaro RS350, 65-66 Corvair Corsa, 66-67 GTO, 73 TransAm 455SD, 56 Chrysler 300B, 57 Nomad or Corvette (preferably with fuel injection), 65 Riviera, 63-64 Avanti, which I thought were all more interesting and sportier to drive than anything new at the time. I prefer to buy American when it doesn’t require major sacrifice, and with cars it never did until the early 1970s.

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        • AvatarJohn C.

          I think all of us here can understand people who prefer something old to something new. That said, there really were some cool things going on. For example the 78-80 Corvette handling bumpers so well with the new glass back, better tires and new dash and with the higher power as emissions were being overcome. The L82 were back in the 6 second range to 60. Compared to the 911 which combined a real doldrum for output and have some serious troubles with engine durability with the 2.7, to people with an open mind the Corvette starts to shine and earn its sales.

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          • AvatarOne Leg at a Time

            It may be age tinted nostalgia, but I am surprised how pretty this car is. One can see the thought that went into the design. These were my dream cars growing up. Of course part of my love of American cars of this era was how easy it was to work on them – huge engine bays, and everything where it made sense.

            I always thought that corvettes of any era were just gorgeous. (I was never really a fan of the 911 until I drove one.)

    • AvatarCarmine

      1979 is peak F body and Corvette of all time, I would imagine that there was some Smokey and the Bandit “halo” effect to any low slung V8 car, plus they were pretty much the only game in town, the Mustang II wasn’t in the hunt, Chrysler had nothing, add to that the dire predictions for the 1980’s….OPEC embargos IV V VI that were no doubt coming, $3.00/gal gas by 1986, Walter Mondale surrendering to the USSR…etc etc etc and some people though this would be the “last dance” for the V8 American performance car.

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  7. AvatarMike

    Well berkeley…I’ve got 10 grand from my tax refund, and I’m sure my local credit union will lend me another 5…

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  8. AvatarDirt Roads

    Growing up on a farm in Montana, we always had pickup trucks. I bought my first one in 1978, a ’65 Dodge D200 with a 318 V8. Had that truck for along time, nothing fancy, just a solid, heavy, dependable truck. Paid $750 for it in a car lot. Sold it around 1989 for $500, so 20 years and, not including inflation that truck only cost me $250. Not bad.

    Simple is better. My 1990 C1500 work truck is as basic as it gets. No back up screens, no GPS, but hey, all that stuff can be bolted on nowadays. No thanks.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      In principle, I agree.

      In practice, when I have to pull a race car 600 miles starting at 8PM and then make the grid at least semi-awake and alert for qualifying the next morning, I want a “cowboy cadillac” that can effortlessly run 90mph with 5,750 pounds behind it and 800 pounds of pit bike, fuel, tools, parts, and canopy in the bed.

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  9. Avatarhank chinaski

    3 of my HS circle had these, but the later models with the ‘updated’ nose and no operas. All six cyl. Maiden half sleeves and mirrored aviators. Bitchin.

    The rich kids got 5.0s and IROCs.

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  10. Avatar-Nate

    I like this’73 Camaro .

    As usual, this is another good free history lesson, I can’t recall seeing one before .

    It took me into the middle 1980’s to warm up to Camaros, Mustangs and the rest of the pony cars, mostly because I was working on them owned by the mullet crowd, not a very intelligent/thoughtful bunch .

    In 1954 Pops bought a 3/4 ton VW Kombi to haul us six screaming brats ’round in, then in 1960 (maybe ’59) he bought an International Harvester Travelall, the original Family Truckster . New England back then tried to match the amount of snow fall with salt so many vehicles were red dust in 5 or 6 years, I recall two and maybe three Travelalls .

    By 1967 I was gone, I was the youngest so Moms never needed nor bought another commercial vehicle but I’d already spent much time in work trucks, mostly pickups, some suburbans and the odd 2 ton bob tail both for working as well as going to store. church and so on .

    As much as I like my stripper shorts bed pickups, modern trucks make sense for almost any family need .

    The fact that they get 25 + MPG at speed, loaded with the AC on full blast, impresses the hell out of me .

    I’m sure all here would laugh at the old trucks I had, in the beginning they were all salved from fields or junkyards, now I work diligently at keeping them looking sharp,I buy my vehicles for me, no one else .

    Loaning out your truck is nice, I have no problems borrowing vehicles wherever I go because they always go back clean and full of fuel unlike the average borrower who not only thrashes it but ‘forgets’ to mention they dented it or worse…

    -Nate

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  11. AvatarDisinterested-Observer

    Go around to the neighbors and tell them they are welcome to borrow the truck, then trade it in for the Camaro before you have to deliver on that.

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  12. AvatarCJinSD

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen another opera window Camaro, although I’ve seen this particular one featured on at least one classic-car-classified-spotting-website. I prefer it to something ridiculous, like one with a six and a two-speed, but I understand why there aren’t other Camaros with opera windows. I wonder if you can feel the reduction in chassis rigidity? I do think that pre-impact-bumper 2nd generation Camaros are the best-looking Camaros. Too bad the UAW kept them from making half as many as they could have sold, and too bad customers didn’t order them all with four barrel carburetors and four speeds.

    There is at least one effective known-treatment for Chinese Wuhan now, but who knows if the globalists will let the damage be curtailed while there is still any freedom left for things like decadent pickup trucks? There is a huge plurality of people who don’t understand that the freedoms they forfeit for security are going to cost them everything else. Something needs to drown out their voices if we’re to be here dredging nostalgia in a year.

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    • Avatar-Nate

      ? And that would be ?….

      -Nate

      “There is at least one effective known-treatment for Chinese Wuhan now”

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      • AvatarCJinSD

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/30/fda-approves-anti-malarial-drugs-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-for-emergency-coronavirus-treatment/#2531a84d5e5d

        Combined with azithromycin, the results have been very encouraging.

        Watch and wait though. Look what the New York Pedocrats have done with intentionally contaminating the military hospital ship when they’d already been caught hiding federally provided supplies and firing medical providers who revealed photos of empty hospital wards.

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        • Avatar-Nate

          Oh yes ~ the stuff the President stupidly said was good so a couple took it, one died the other is in a coma….

          Try facts instead of wishful thinking some time .

          -Nate

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          • AvatarCJinSD

            That couple were big Pedocrat donors, but they decided to “believe Trump” and take fish tank cleaner because all doses of all chemicals are the same? Why didn’t you do it? You certainly never write anything to suggest you’re smarter or more honest than the one that survived. Seriously, you think Trump was stupid for saying the name of a chemical that is effective when prescribed by a doctor? He doesn’t even know anyone as stupid as you are. Not a single one of his voters or donors couldn’t make you dissolve in a puddle of tears in a debate. How is Trump supposed to relate to Hillary donors who take fish tank cleaner because it has the same chemical name on the label?

            Nancy Pelosi was telling people to come down to China Town for a street carnival at the end of February. You choose to allow some pretty selective articles to find their way into the rectally-stored reaches of your mind.

  13. Avatartifoso

    “It wasn’t a 2.5-ton box designed to convey nothing but a bland sense of privileged menace.” I can’t define good writing but I know it when I see it. The most succint encapsulation of the SUV fetish that I’ve come across.

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