In Which The Washington Generals Hoist A Trophy

Like many of you, I stayed up pretty late last night. I watched the map start blue from the early votes, turn red as the polling results came in, then turn blue-ish as surprising things happened, like Wisconsin “finding” 144,000 votes that all happened to be for Mr. Biden. (Hey, it put Al Franken in the Senate, and nobody complained!) With 60% of the vote counted, Trump led Virginia by 300,000. The media called it for Biden, who then managed to obtain something like eighty percent of the remaining ballots and turn it into a win by 400,000. On the other side, the early optimism that Biden would win Ohio turned into a Trump rout.

It looks like this election will be decided in the courts, or perhaps in the streets. As of right now (the afternoon of the fourth) I’d be foolish to call it either way. It seems obvious, however, that no matter what happens, there is one group of people who have scored a major victory — and very few of my readers, to say nothing of Americans in general, will like it.

Trigger warning: politics to be openly discussed after the jump, don’t click it if a discussion like this would upset you.

Some of of you will blanch at this assertion, but hear me out: America has no effective political right wing. If you doubt me on this, then let me ask you a Katt Williams question. In his first comedy special, Katt asked his listeners, “What does the Iraqi army uniform look like?” His point was that there had been virtually no effective resistance in the second Gulf War. “We’re not killing their army — we’re killing them!

So here’s my question: What does the right-wing street army uniform look like? We all know what Antifa’s uniform looks like; it’s a hypertrophied version of the “black bloc” uniform seen in Adbusters for years. You can open a browser window at any time day or night and see video of Antifa, ahem, peacefully protesting all over the country. You can see cops hit with bricks, entire blocks destroyed, statues pulled down with impunity, flames raging behind CNN reporters.

So what’s the right wing street army look like? There was a “Unite The Right” rally in Virginia a while back; it turned out to be about 50% LARPers, 10% Feds, 35% randos, and about a high school football team’s worth of people holding tiki torches. That was the last time there was anything like an organized right wing. The feds stomped on it hard, both in the moment and in the courtrooms.

“Wait a minute, there’s the Proud Boys!” Okay, how many of them are there? Antifa and BLM can protest in fifty cities at the same time. The Proud Boys can’t fill a Greyhound. There was supposedly a militia plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. If you wonder why you haven’t heard about it lately, you might want to search “Whitmer kidnap BLM” or “Whitemer kidnap anarchist”. Apparently some of these racist Trump supporters are on record calling Trump a “tyrant” and expressing their deep concern about the death of George Floyd. Not a good look, am I right?

You get the idea. There’s no right wing in this country. We have anti-fascists as far as the eye can see, but no fascists. Since the very existence of anti-fascism requires the existence of fascists, we’ve had to define “Nazi” down until it fits your crazy Uncle Bobby who listens to Joe Rogan. Do you know a single person who identifies as a Nazi? Of course not. Do you know a hundred people who continually talk about their desire to punch Nazis? There’s a good chance you do. Louisville, Kentucky has an armed black socialist army (the No Fucking Around Coalition) that exceeds the size of the “white power movement” all by itself. And they’ve already shot three people. (Admittedly, all three of those people were also members of the No Fucking Around Coalition, and all three shootings were accidental.)

The people who compare the Current Year United States to Weimar Germany are missing an important fact: there were actually two sides to that battle. You had literal Communists in the streets, and literal Nazis. The Nazi “brownshirts” won that battle, which was the first step for them on the road to power. Can you imagine a group of American Nazis showing up and beating an antifa group in a straight fight? Of course you can’t. It will never, ever, ever happen. At this point, the idea of Nazis exists for the same reason the Party in 1984 still needed Emmanuel Goldstein: there has to be an enemy, or the whole thing falls apart.

Listen, I know I have a lot of hard left readers, and I have some hard left tendencies myself — I was reading the literature and advocating anti-consumerist beliefs a full thirty years ago. I know it would be nice to have some real Nazi opponents you could run out there and punch. That would be very satisfying. It just isn’t reality.

Instead of a true right wing, America has conservatives, whose sole purpose is to eagerly espouse the Democrat Party platform of fifteen years ago, plus a smattering of cheap-labor and low-tax malarkey. They’ve been infamously called “The Washington Generals Of Politics”. (The Washington Generals are the “team” that plays in exhibition games against the Harlem Globetrotters; they are professional patsies or heels.)

How have the last two decades worked out for you, personally? If you’re a member or fellow-traveler of the Davos class, chances are: pretty well. If you’re among the subspecies conservative intellectual or politician, you’ve accepted—perhaps not consciously, but unmistakably—your status on the roster of the Washington Generals of American politics. Your job is to show up and lose, but you are a necessary part of the show and you do get paid. To the extent that you are ever on the winning side of anything, it’s as sophists who help the Davoisie oligarchy rationalize open borders, lower wages, outsourcing, de-industrialization, trade giveaways, and endless, pointless, winless war.

American conservatives were staunchly against Social Security, welfare, gun control, and gay marriage — until they were rabidly for all of it. They stood firm against integrated schools — right up until the minute they became tremendous advocates of busing. Right now they are putting up some meek resistance against the idea of transgender students in women’s sports; that’s scheduled to expire any day now, at which point we will hear that it’s the finest American tradition possible. My point here isn’t to argue the merits of any position above, merely to point out that conservatives always lose. It’s what they do. Their job is to put a mild brake on the progressive agenda, earning billions of dollars in the process.

George Bush — both George Bushes — were conservative Presidents. Their beliefs would have struck FDR as being just a little lefty. They obligingly provided big wars and big social programs and all the progressive legislation you could want, all the while also serving as the necessary enemy for the progressive movement. “God damn that BUSHITLER to hell, he only signed off on eighty percent of our desired agenda!” Mitt Romney, had the country been apathetic enough to elect him, would have been a great conservative president. He would have stood up there with his rock-solid jawline and his Mormon sacred garments, and he would have signed off on anything they gave him.

The conservative party exists to create the illusion of opposition to a single global agenda. Look at this photo:

You have two people animated by an authentic political ideology — Hillary Clinton on the right, Donald Trump on the left — and they aren’t smiling. In the middle you have “BUSHITLER” himself, the Obamas, and Slick Willie Clinton, none of whom ever possessed a measurable conviction about anything. Old GHWB could have been in there too, had this not been his actual funeral. The policies and legislation pursued by these people could be the subject of an extremely difficult matching game. Who put the kids in cages? (Obama.) Who signed the most far-reaching and long-term effective piece of gun legislation since 1968? (George HW Bush, with the infamous “import ban”). Who instituted “welfare reform”? (Bill Clinton). Who ensured China had most favored nation trade status and made it almost an economic necessity for corporations to relocate their manufacturing base to China? (Trick question! They all did that.)

The American Uniparty is corporate funded, sexually liberal, fiscally conservative, eager to print money, hungry for cheap labor, allergic to unions and manufacturing, happy to prostrate itself before Silicon Valley. Most of all, it’s always — and I mean always — interested in starting a war. Note that Mr. Trump has not started any wars. This infuriates his opponents, who reveled in Mr. Obama using his Nobel Peace Prize as a shield behind which to continue and expand the longest military action in American history.

The shocking election of Donald Trump four years didn’t destroy the Uniparty; in fact, they got much of their agenda accomplished during his Presidency. But the very notion that everyday Americans might have a representative, however imperfect, in the person of this NYC real estate con man/reality TV star has been intolerable to the usual conservative “thought leaders”, who are sickened by the idea of possibly being called upon to implement any part of a right-wing or populist agenda.

And that’s how you got NeverTrump, the group of overpaid conservative talking heads and party functionaries who have devoted the last four years to, in the words of CNN, “making sure that Donald Trump is a one-term President.” Like the snake of Genesis, they are forever whispering in the ears of Americans, trying to convince them of a fascinating, if highly illogical, proposition: that true Christians/evangelicals/conservatives must engage in “principled opposition” of Trump and his policies, all the better to ensure that Trump’s opponents triumph. They argue, for example, that Trump is not genuinely anti-abortion, and that therefore he must be replaced with a Democrat who would be… wholeheartedly pro-abortion. They suggest that Trump is not really a Christian, and that therefore he must be replaced with a committed atheist. You get the idea.

This appears absurd on its face until you realize that the whole conservative grift is reliant on there being a Democrat in office. Rush Limbaugh’s biggest years, income-wise, happened when Clinton and Obama were running the show. Ben Shapiro and all the Republican “talking heads” can’t make any money on a lecture tour when a Republican, however nominal, sits in the White House. In the same way that Antifa needs Nazis, the conservatives need a powerful Democrat administration in place so they have something against which to rail.

The worst of these people is David French, who literally makes a living griping about Democrats. His preferred election outcome is — no surprise! — the one that will earn him the highest speaking fees:

So, you are cheering for Joe Biden? I do not want Donald Trump to win reelection. Absolutely not. I want Trump to lose to Biden and the Republican Party to retain the Senate. That would prevent a triumphalist sweeping away of institutions like the filibuster. It would check any temptation to pack the courts, for example. It would remove from the field the worst-case scenarios at the same time that you remove from the field a president who has done more than any single human being in my lifetime to divide this country—and governed incompetently while he did it.

Note the telling phrase: “a president who has done more than any single human being in my lifetime to divide this country”. Yet we know that this country is deeply divided, and has been for the better part of thirty years. Trump’s sin isn’t dividing the country — it’s in giving a voice to the approximate half of the country which until 2016 had been expected to pay the salaries of the Washington Generals even as the team took a thousand losses in a row. The country was plenty divided in 2015, but there was no division in American public life because everyone was basically playing for the same Uniparty team. You might as well say that the average elementary school has no difference of opinion on whether there should be homework. There are two very different points of view in that school, but only one side has the advantage of making the law.

Should Joe Biden win this election, it will be by numbers well below that claimed by the NeverTrumpers. It will also be the first time in modern history that a major political party has knowingly thrown an election. This should concern you regardless of your political affiliation. A uniparty state doesn’t need to listen to the voters, whether those voters are populists or leftists or small-government “wingnuts”. It just listens to the donors, because the vote is a formality. We end up with a country governed by “consensus”. Consensus is deadly to democracy. It doesn’t allow for discussion or opposition. It’s built by, and for, a very specific group of people.

What’s the man say? “They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, ’cause they own this fucking place. It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”

123 Replies to “In Which The Washington Generals Hoist A Trophy”

  1. AvatarRich

    In Illinois the democrats fund the republicans to give the impression of an opposition. Meanwhile the so-called Republicans suck up cash. Imagine that.

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  2. AvatarRick T

    David French and the Lincoln Project scumbags also targeted all of the vulnerable Republican Senators as well as Trump:

    “ In addition to a relentless negative ad campaign against Trump, the group has so far spent more than $1.3 million attacking Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), who is among the most vulnerable GOP senators up for reelection. That’s by far the most they’ve spent on any Senate candidate.

    “Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings reveal The Lincoln Project has also targeted more than a half-dozen other Republicans up for reelection in 2020, including Sens. Cory Gardner (Colo), Martha McSally (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Joni Ernst (Iowa), John Cornyn (Texas) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.).”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511401-lincoln-project-expands-gop-target-list-winning-trump-ire%3famp

    And these scumbags think we’re doing to forget all this when they move to take back a purified Republican Party?

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  3. AvatarDaniel Sharpe

    Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire are raking in the money. If you don’t consider Trump a “Republican”, I’ll accept that.

    The reason they are raking it in is because CNN is unhinged. If CNN treated Trump like they did GWB, then they’d have nothing to talk about.

    It is my estimation that the right wing is growing while the left get farther left. I honestly never cared for the Evangelicals and Neo Cons of the early 00’s, but then again I’m more Libertarian. I’ve always considered “Conservatism” and “The Right wing” just nebulous ideas that will ebb and flow just like the left wing does.

    GWB was never that conservative and never was sold as such. Trump just ran on a Republican ticket when he could have ran on a Democratic Ticket.

    If you are looking for the conservatives or “right wing” that you are talking about, just look at the local Republicans in rural and suburban Alabama, MS, Georgia.

    They aren’t going to be found on the national stage. Why? Simply because the right wing and conservatives lost the culture war a long time ago.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      I like almost all of Trump’s policies and court appointees, with my only reservations being his lack of spending control (not sure he had much choice given the Congress he had to work with) and his initiative to let felons out of prison (which probably won him some black votes). The problem that many Republicans had with Trump in 2016 was they weren’t sure he was a conservative, since he was a registered Democrat until 2009 and was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage even before Obama was. If Pelosi, Schumer and the media had given Trump even the slightest amount of honeymoon at the start of his Presidency I expect his love of making deals could well have pushed many of his policies and court picks to the Left. But instead they and Never Trump Republicans plotted overthrow from day 1 and Trump had zero incentive to play nice and be a “unifier”, which took him down the path of conservative government that hadn’t been trod since the days of Reagan. Trump’s theme song may end up being: “I fought the swamp, and the swamp won”.

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      • AvatarDaniel J

        And this is exactly why I hate the idea of “conservatism”. It is generally too broad. Again, I lean more libertarian, so maybe my perspective is different. I view things more as “fiscally conservative” along with “socially conservative”.

        What I find interesting was that from day one, I was concerned about the deep south, where I live, disliking Trump because they typically fall in line with the typical “swamp” Conservative. What I learned was that many, even the bible thumpers, know that Roe v Wade wasn’t getting overturned. That “gay marriage” wasn’t going away anytime soon either, and most can put those issues aside as long as they can stay employed and have low taxes. Many of them even liked Trump on the Devos pick because they were tired of their failing school system.

        If the Never Trumpers an die hard conservatives continue on the path, they will lose many in the deep south I’m afraid. What I’ve learned, from growing up in Florida and now living in Alabama for close to 20 years, is that the “conservatives” here only start to care about the social/religious issues when they are employed and able to live.

        The reason the Swamp will always win is simply the “deep state”. We have an executive branch and federal government so large that most employed are entrenched in their own convictions to do whatever it takes to keep their job.

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      • AvatarMopar4wd

        The Birther thing and the way he started his campaign with speech about Mexicans killed most chances of a honeymoon. Democrats were trying to pull in every Hispanic vote they could as they saw it providing their path to controlling house senate and the white house. Obviously we now know things were not as simple as they thought with voting blocks.

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  4. AvatarBDol

    Hey now, Franken was elected by Minnesota not Wisconsin… but all us Midwest states blend together huh.

    A sad state of affairs for all residents of this nation.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      I live in Ohio, I can distinguish Midwest states… I was simply pointing out that this game has been played before.

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        • AvatarJeff Zekas

          This is the first time I heard about Franken and his vote manipulation, but it doesn’t surprise me. I always wondered how such an incompetent boob could be elected, especially in the midwest. And it turns out that Ilhan Omar has a cadre that buys votes. Project Veritas is a good source of all the news on voting corruption.

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      • AvatargbKing

        If Biden takes it this will be the first time since 1960 that Ohio hasn’t picked the winner. Funny how we only miss it when heavy corruption is afoot.

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  5. AvatarCliffG

    Remember Paul Ryan? Always moaning and groaning about deficits and out of control spending until the moment he became Speaker. Then, magically, he had no interest in either. It was all a con. I hold my most contempt for the conservative Pharisees hoovering up lefty billionaires’ scraps as long as they attack conservatives first and foremost, relying on their adherence to “free trade” and its’ various corollaries to vaguely insinuate their attachment to pure conservativism. i started to read National Review back in 1968, tolerated the Bushes, McCain, Romney, et al, but the Never Trump cover by that magazine was the ultimate fuck you to those of us on the outsider conservative spectrum. And then some of those same people decided that inflicting socialism on us should be our penance. Well, they should just hope we just continue to sit and watch. Because we have a shit ton of guns.

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  6. AvatarVTNoah

    Maybe just maybe, the two party system has such deep roots in America because there’s always a convenient enemy to rally against. You don’t have to worry about a grey area or building a coalition across the aisle when it’s as simple as “Us against them”. It’s a race to the bottom for everyone. Where’s Ross Perot when you need him?

    Your points are valid about the Conservatives in power but I would say that when we had 8 years of Obama, the republicans did just as much to try and slander him and the democrats. Just look at the multi day controversy about him wearing a brown suit jacket. Look at the Tea Party protests. Look at the “birther” scandal. I’m not sure it tracks for me that the Conservatives are good at losing. I see them using a scorched earth, win at all costs method. Look at what’s happening with all of the lawsuits and conjecture trying to restrict voting across the country the multiple attempts to throw out legitimate ballots. In Texas they limited ballot drop offs to 1 per county. Multiple counties have populations of several million, that’s not exactly ideal. Look at what Mitch McConnel did with Obama’s court appointments and then the total flip when it was time to replace RBG with just over a month left in the election year. And yes, the democrats aren’t much better. The outrage over the Rose Garden redesign was ridiculous along with numerous other examples.

    I was pissed when Biden won the nomination. I voted for Bernie.

    I was hopeful Trump might do something to get these scumbags out of Washington but his actions point in the other direction when a solid percentage of his team is indicted and subsequently jailed for criminal conduct and he consistently tries to go around the rule of law. When there’s smoke, there’s fire. Unfortunately for me, he’s just too inept and impulsive to be an effective leader. Look at his history of running businesses and the testimony of DOZENS who worked with him and for him. It wasn’t good. Great, you’re a billionaire but you started with 400 million of your dad’s money. If you invested that in the S&P 500 when you first got it, you’d likely have the same amount. Great job.

    I’m not a bleeding heart liberal by any means. I voted for our Republican Governor because of his ability to lead our state effectively and be fiscally responsible. Biden sucks but at least he’s not exhausting.

    To the Trump supporters who jump on this thread to “own me”. I don’t think you’re bad people, or racist, or fascists. I just really don’t like Trump.

    Solution time:

    Eliminate Facebook, twitter, and Google News or fundamentally change their algorithms so they no longer amplify outrage and extremist views on both sides. Everyone is being an asshole right now.

    Reimplement the fairness doctrine and require news agencies to present both sides of a controversial topic.

    Institute Congressional Term Limits and a buffer of 5 years before ex congress members can become lobbyists.

    It’s not perfect but it’s a start.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      In a way you’re making my point further. Republicans groused about Obama for eight years but did very little to actually go after him in any tangible fashion. And they made sure that all of the serious questions regarding who he was and where he came from got marginalized immediately.

      Mr. Biden is unlikely to stay President for long; he appears to have about the same loss of cognitive function that Reagan had in the second term, but he hasn’t even moved into the White House yet. President Harris it’s’a gonna be.

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      • AvatarVTNoah

        Indeed. They did a solid job of closing ranks around Trump after the election. Lindsey Graham comes to mind.

        The sad part is you almost have to use these platforms to be a part of society and they are actively chipping away at the foundations.
        Do I have to pick a side in the upcoming civil war or can VT be like Switzerland?

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      • AvatarWill

        Pretty much sums up modern feminism; letting men do the heavy lifting, while the woman gets preferential treatment after doing nothing prior. Failing upwards for handed success.

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      • AvatarDaniel Sharpe

        As I said, there isn’t much Republicans/Conservatives can do as they lost the culture war a long time ago.

        Go after Obama? Racist!

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      • AvatarMopar4wd

        To be fair Trump seems to have some age related slips in some recent speeches and even in physical ways. Really they were both too old for the gig.

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    • AvatarNewbie Jeff

      “To the Trump supporters who jump on this thread to “own me”. I don’t think you’re bad people, or racist, or fascists. I just really don’t like Trump”

      And this is the problem with half the country… unless you have personally met Trump, did it ever occur to you that everything you see and hear about him is the manipulated product of people who completely despise him?

      As for myself, I wouldn’t consider myself a “Trump supporter”. I’m a Trump voter, because I simply separate the emotional need to “like” a politician from the pragmatic understanding of what that politician tries to get done. You pay for a movie to make you feel good… you pay taxes to a government to – and it’s ridiculous that this has become a scandalous concept – put the interests of the country and its citizens first.

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      • AvatarVTNoah

        Indeed. Media bias creates a whirlwind of controversy and screws up the signal to noise ratio on Trump so that literally everything he did was wrong. I even admire some of the things he did like calling out China on their trade practices. I just can’t get behind much if anything else. It’s not just his personality and behavior for me his policies, or lack thereof didn’t appeal. The unfortunate part is we aren’t allowed to have a nuanced discussion like this in society now. If we are to make actual progress, that’s what has to happen.

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        • AvatarNewbie Jeff

          I have a feeling you’re about to find the next four years of policies from the new administration to be much less appealing.

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      • AvatarEric H

        Jeff,
        I grew up in the NY area in the 80’s.
        Trump was in the news for douchbag rich kid shit all the time. so no, I don’t think anything I heard about him in the last four years in any way was manipulated in a way to lower my opinion of him.
        Trump is a narcissistic simpleton who can’t string together a coherent four word sentence. His name recognition from his shitty reality shows got him elected.

        If he loses, good riddance.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          Eric H. – and how many shitty reality shows have you developed and starred in? When can we expect your announcement that you will be running for President and listen to your eloquent sentences of more than 4 words? Perhaps you can be the first non-narcissist President by admitting you can’t stop the oceans from rising or cure a new virus from China?

          And if he loses – do you really think senile, corrupt, and Leftist Joe Biden is going to lead us to the promised land where college and health care are free, energy is clean and plentiful, and all races and genders have exactly equal outcomes in life?

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        • Avatardejal

          There’s a difference losing fair, and losing with thumbs on the scale. I can live with losing fair. You sound like you are a ends justifys the means person.

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        • AvatarDaniel J

          I don’t like Trump’s personality. I don’t.

          But then how the hell did he get anything done if he was such a “simpleton”.

          I’ve had terrible managers to work for. They were bullies, coarse, unprofessional, etc. But my god they could move mountains.

          So, the question I always have is how is it he’s just so bad or so bad at being president? Sure, if we only looks at how he acts publicly we’d think he’s a buffoon. Then if we look at what he and his administration *actually did*, whether you like him or not, there is no denying that there has to be something there. Can we argue that he wasn’t all that conservative? Absolutely. We all knew this going in, didn’t we?

          Keep in mind, I voted 3rd party in both elections.

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          • AvatarDan

            Don’t forget how right things were going in the world in 2016. Fracking broke OPEC and gas was 2.00 again. The neocons’ stupid wars were finally wound down. QE1-3 had the economy finally starting to roll again. Obama was unpopular. Hillary was the weakest candidate in a generation. We had the Senate by 8 and the House by 60. The sky was the limit.

            Out of that we got the Republican control default of a business tax cut and Republican judges. Trump’s contribution to that was four years of uninterrupted buffoonery that turned our party into a punchline, the midterm into a wipeout, the wu flu into a disaster, and 2021 into Democrats owning the country again.

            Oh he did a lot. The Dems should be building statues to this guy for the next twenty years.

        • AvatarMopar4wd

          Yeah if you lived in the tri state area, Trump was in the news alot, the last 4 years aren’t much of a surprise for people who had heard about him before he had a show on NBC.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      VTNoah – Yea those Tea Partiers were exactly the Right Wing equivalent of Antifa and BLM, except for the fact that the Tea Party was an entirely grassroots voluntary “uprising” that supported the Constitution and left their protest sites cleaner than they were before the protests, and Antifa and BLM are mostly professional protesters paid for by Soros and bussed from city to city with an ample supply of bricks and Molotov cocktails to be more effective at assaulting police, destroying property, and looting while they actively cheer the destruction of the Constitution – but other than that they are almost the same.

      And Texas limiting ballot collections to secure locations and Republican efforts to require voter ID can only be about subverting “legitimate” Democrat votes. Meanwhile Democrats sent unsolicited ballots to dead people, illegals, and pets and want to accept votes without ID, and mailed ballots without postmarks, harvested by paid members of the Democrat party, and even those that arrive days after the election. What could possibly go wrong?

      And you “really don’t like Trump” – why? Is it his “dangerous” Tweets, his lower class NYC manner of speaking, his real estate developer sense of puffing up accomplishments, or is it the tax cuts, regulation cuts, appointment of judges who actually know and follow the Constitution, his peace deals with Israel and various Arab neighbors, his better trade deals with Mexico/Canada and get tough on China policies, his building a wall and starting to enforce immigration laws, his encouragement of oil and gas production and cheap energy, his rolling back on Obama education mandates that took away the due process rights of male college students and inability of teachers to discipline unruly and violent students, or his avoidance of wars and stronger defense budgets? Perhaps you never heard of anything except the dangerous Tweets because the mainstream media has given him 95% negative coverage and not mentioned his many accomplishments in actual policy for fear it might give voters legitimate reasons to like him and help re-elect him?

      As for extremist views on both sides being shut down. What extremist views on the “Right” side would that be? Support for Donald Trump and Republicans more generally? News about Obama spying on Trump and Biden and Hillary Clinton corruption and Russian/China/Ukraine collusion? That men and women are different in personality, interests, and abilities that explain most gender based life outcome differences? That there are only two genders? That there are racial differences in IQ that can explain most differences in life success outcomes? That taxing the productive and successful to give free stuff to the unproductive and failures in life is a failed policy that killed 100+ million under Communism? That renewable energy is a big sham, and that nuclear and natural gas are the most clean and cost effective energy sources? That the US is the most successful multi-cultural country in world history and that people of all races, ethnicities, genders, and cultures do better in the US than in any of their “home” countries on average? Are any of these the “extremist” viewpoints you think should be banned?

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      • AvatarVTNoah

        And as I predicted… someone took the bait. I’m also kicking myself for entering the comments on a political post but here goes. Internet fight!

        1) Read what I wrote. I never said views, positions, or speech need to be banned. First amendment amiright? I said that algorithms that amplify the extremes of speech in the never ending quest for user engagement and ad dollars need to be changed. I work in digital marketing, I have a pretty firm grasp on how it works and it will make your head spin. It happened to my mother. She was an old hippy who was interested in homeopathic remedies. Now she’s a hardcore anti-vaxxer who runs a Facebook group on quack Mercury Chelation theory with several thousand members. You can thank people like her for the measles outbreaks we were seeing not too long ago. Conveniently it came about after she joined Facebook. Watch the Social Dilemma and you’ll get an idea of what I’m talking about.

        2) I actually agree with many of the things you assume I think are “extreme”. Yes, The USA is one of the best countries in the world to live. I for one am incredibly fortunate to live where I do and to have the career that I do. Nuclear power is great! Men and Women have different proclivities based on genetics. There are indeed only two genetic sexes and putting genetic men in women’s sports is ridiculous. People need to take more responsibility in their life and stop blaming others for their troubles. ETC….

        3) I don’t agree with you that renewable energy is a sham. Solar power is an awesome supplement to the grid. To the point that many utilities are subsidizing the installation of home systems because it benefits their bottom line. It’s also becoming more efficient and less expensive to the point that it sometimes outperforms Oil, Gas, and Coal. Don’t you think it’s rational that we diversify our energy supply? Renewables along with Nuclear are the way forward.

        4) I firmly believe in equality in opportunity in this country. Not equality of outcome. Sometimes the government needs to step up to remove those obstacles to opportunity. It’s a very fine line and one that is often misinterpreted. Desegregation comes to mind as an example of it being implemented somewhat correctly. The voting rights act is another example.

        Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m assuming you’re saying that the right wing doesn’t contain “extreme” elements. If so, I’d say good luck to you. We’re a country with over 300 million people in it. Is it safe to say that there potentially could be a population right wingers who want to use violence, or perhaps already have? Maybe I should reference the FBI’s recent report saying that right wing terrorism is our biggest internal threat? This doesn’t discount the riots that have occurred nationwide. Fuck those Antifa dorks.

        And yes… Trump exhibited the same shitty behavior prior to entering office. He didn’t suddenly become a dickhead when everyone started being mean to him. Check Twitter prior to 2016 and you’ll see ample evidence. Check the full page ad he took out demanding the central park five get the death sentence. It goes on and on… Unfortunately, I can’t be convinced that Trump is some excellent deal maker / leader.

        Stingray – I’m sure you’re a cool dude in person. If you make it north to VT, I’d have a beer with you. Just don’t expect me to agree with your views. Cheers.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          VT – it seems you agree with most of the mainstream Right views, and yet because Trump is a “dickhead” you vote for the party that not only won’t support those policies, but actively seeks to ban anyone who espouses them as “hate speech”? Sorry, but that is one of the most irrational pieces of logic I have seen, but totally worthy of a Leftist who votes on emotion rather than logic.

          As for solar and diversified power – the only reason power companies push solar is because of subsidies and/or renewable mandates, because it otherwise rarely makes sense to invest in power that only works in the daytime (and when not covered in snow) and only lasts 10-15 years before needing to be replaced. Every country or region that has invested heavily in renewables has the most expensive power in their region because they not only have to buy expensive renewables, but also pay for 100% backup of conventional power sources for when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing, because the wind almost never blows when it is really cold or really hot, and solar doesn’t work at all during Vermont winters or every night of the year.

          As for Right Wing nuts – yes there are no doubt a few hundred floating around in a country of 300 million, but as my comment below details most “Right Wing” Nazis/White Supremacists are actually Leftists in their policy preferences – Biden won their endorsement this year. Furthermore, relying on the FBI to keep an honest list of possible “Right Wing” terrorists is kind of a joke given the far Left political leadership of that agency as demonstrated by their illegal spying against the Trump campaign and administration, and apparent lack of interest in investigating Clinton and Biden corruption. A more accurate assessment is to look at which side of the political spectrum has been responsible for the violence, arson, and looting in almost every large Democrat run city during the past year.

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          • AvatarMopar4wd

            I think the case against Trump as a moderate is pretty simple.
            Yes he’s a dickhead but there’s more.
            He filled the swamp with a new swamp of people he saw on TV, then went along with most of what they suggested.
            He tried to hold out on aid to foreign country for personal gain. One thing if your getting a better deal for our country another reason entirely if your doing it for yourself.
            You believe in some form of climate change.
            You were against killing Obama care when there was no plan to actually fix the problems with healthcare in the country.
            You think the EPA needs to exist in some form.
            You like some small bit of honesty and transparency in your government.

          • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

            You like some small bit of honesty and transparency in your government.

            So you vote for the party that regularly tries to steal elections. I guess you think diluting your vote with illegal ballots isn’t a problem for you as long as your guy wins.

          • Avatarstingray65

            I can understand a vote for Biden if you want the Green New Deal because of climate fears (even though it won’t work but will cost a fortune), or because you have a pre-existing condition and like being subsidized with your Obamacare policy, or you want a cheap gardener or maid and like open borders, or think women’s sports would be enhanced with transgenders, but what I can’t understand is how someone who has conservative policy preferences can vote for Biden because they don’t like Trump’s personality.

            As for transparency in government – why is it only the Democrat jurisdictions that are afraid of allowing observers in the vote counting rooms, and why hasn’t there been any real investigation into the Biden corruption scandal?

  7. AvatarJohn Van Stry

    Now I know what people in third world countries feel like as they watch the election stolen right before their eyes in real time.
    they’re not even trying to hide the fraud. Because they know no one will do anything about it. After all, we’re all too busy being afraid of a cold.

    Serious question: All those democrats who’ve been talking about re-education camps for the last several months and ‘special courts’ – is that only for Republican Officials? Or are they gonna round up those of us who voted for them too?

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  8. AvatarPower6

    Rarely comment but always enjoy your stuff! I was “Trump is a joke” in 2016 but now having watched 20 hours of PBS interviews I understand where it comes from, the people pissed off at Obama, what was good about the rise of Trump, heck I could be a conservative in another dimension which we may enter into pretty soon!

    Without taking on too much two points: First stop with the fraud vote overtures this is business as usual for how the counting works, the geeks that live this stuff know that. You’re playing the “whatabout game” there is no story there and it distracts too much.

    You make great points, I don’t think it comes down to abandoning party in the face of success. Some can take Trump and say good outweighs the bad and some can’t. I’m on the can’t side. Some love it. I’ll take populist candidate, and a GOP one at that they could well have my vote, I just can’t get over the other stuff that revolves around the narcissism, his Dad done broke that boy good. Maybe I’m too hopeful for a Trump but not one so personally f’d up?? In the case that is too hopeful maybe I’ll regret the Biden vote. The best hope is GOP keeps the Senate and little gets done.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Power6 – and how do you think you would react if all your former friends and co-workers turned on you when you decided to become a Republican? And when you are surprisingly elected President, how do you think you would react if the media, your political opponents, and many in your own party started to make up stories about Russian collusion and trying to get you impeached or jailed? And when you somehow still got some good things done such as tax cuts, de-regulation, good judge picks, peace deals, etc. and 95% of your media coverage was still negative? Do you think you would rise above it and be kind and forgiving to your relentless accusers and opponents and become a “unifying” influence? Do you actually believe Biden is not a narcissist – what would you call someone who is senile, 78 years old, has to take a nap at 10 AM, is in the pocket of the Chinese and Silicon Valley oligarchies, and who thinks he can and should be President?

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      • AvatarKevin Jaeger

        “So, you’re saying that 196 year old people, and folks who have been dead for decades voting is business as usual?”

        Unfortunately yes, that is more or less business as usual in American elections, at least in some states. Many just have poor control of the electoral rolls, weak ID requirements and little to no enforcement even if obvious fraud is happening. Given how vehemently one party in those states resists any attempt at improving election integrity you can only conclude that state of affairs is by design.

        Obviously this doesn’t apply to all states. Many states have clean elections.

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  9. AvatarNewbie Jeff

    I’d just like to note that Biden won the District of Columbia with 93% of the vote. Sure, the overall electoral college impact is negligible, because it’s not that many people…

    …but we’re talking about D.C. We’re talking about people whose sole enterprises are politics, lobbying, and government administration. They control the entirety of the federal government, and the influence surrounding it.

    93% of them voted against Trump. Not even California voted 93% against Trump.. What could be a clearer example of the daily hostility the Trump administration faced? What could further prove that Trump was trying to govern within the borders of an enemy state?

    It’s infuriating that half of the American people are so stupid, so easily controlled by a party who brands itself around “hope”, “change”, and “justice” while simultaneously undermining the only politician in Washington who truly wanted to fight the power of the Swamp.

    Enjoy the results of your hard-won election… I’m sure everything will be all good now.

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    • AvatarLatisha Brown

      Only a small part of DC is well-off politicians. Most is it is awful slums. Slums vote democrat. DC actually has a lower average IQ than any of the “states”.

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  10. AvatarDirty Dingus McGee

    Politics for the last 50 years has become an increasingly open sewer. I participated on the fringes of it as a lobbyist on the state level 25 years ago. A politician, no matter the party, has one goal and one goal only; remain in office. It doesn’t matter what your constituents elected you to do and it doesn’t even matter your own beliefs. What ever it takes to retain that power, money from what ever source to attain that, they will do it.

    I think anyone with more than 3 working brain cells knows that Biden will be ushered out before his first year as the president is over. I fear what will happen when Harris assumes the presidency. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Shrillary was anointed as VP when that happens.

    So what will I, DDM, do? This has been a rough year for our business. Our billable’s are down about 75% from last year because of the scamdemic. We have been forced to lay off folks and doubt that we could get them back IF there was an uptick in business. I personally am now on my 64th trip around the sun so have pretty much left my mark over the last 40 years. IF business doesn’t pick up by the end on the first quarter of next year, we will likely shut down the company. My partner and I have had many talks about it and are in agreement; the future looks bleak both business wise and on a personal level. I’ve been smart,and lucky, enough to be in a position where I have zero money owed. No mortgage, no car note, no credit card debt that isn’t paid off monthly. I’m fairly sure I have enough assets to last me for at least 15 more years, but doubt I will live to spend it all. In short, unless the government sees fit to seize all my assets, I will choose to live as a hermit. I’m just getting tired of all the bullshit and want away from it.Perhaps I’ll relocate. Costa Rica has some interesting policies on immigrants, so I might end up there.Or maybe Belize.

    Either way, I’m gonna be choosing to no longer participate in the game, one way or the other.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      If you could pick one shining example of how the establishment doesn’t care about the American people, it’s the existence of Kamala Harris as the likely next President.

      She couldn’t break ONE PERCENT in Democrat primaries. Black people hate her. White people hate her. Jamaicans hate her. Indians hate her. Yet the superdelegates elected her to the Presidency.

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      • AvatarDan

        That vile woman’s one moment of relevance through the entire primary process was when she gave Joe a public dressing down as a racist for, essentially, having been alive too long. Blink and she’s his running mate. Blink again and she’ll be sitting at his desk while he’s napping.

        Shit on regular Americans? This guy was their loyal soldier for 50 years and they cheerfully put his balls in her purse in front of the entire world.

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      • Avatarstingray65

        To be fair, not all black people hate Harris – Willie Brown seemed to think highly of her, helped pull her up from her disadvantaged childhood – great, great grandchild of a slave owner, daughter of two Ph.Ds, raised in the slums of Berkeley and Montreal, did not get into an Ivy League school despite her victimhood.

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      • AvatarDaniel J

        This could either backfire greatly on the DNC for the next election or the entire left simply falls in line. It’s a dangerous game the DNC is playing here.

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      • AvatarMopar4wd

        I don’t really understand how they picked her either. I have to imagine there were qualified women with broader appeal. Like you said she is not well liked and it wouldn’t surprise me if she actually hurt Biden if only by driving more of the right to the polls.

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        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          In a straight election Tulsi Gabbard and a headless department store dummy as VP beats Trump with 320 legit electoral votes.

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          • AvatarKevin Jaeger

            I found it hard to believe how badly Tulsi did in the primaries. It was just as obvious to me that they had an easy winner but weren’t interested for some reason. I confess I don’t understand the Democrats as well as I wish I did.

          • Avatarstingray65

            Tulsi was a military veteran, and most Democrats hate the military. Tulsi wasn’t fully on board with the give everything away for free and tax the crap out of billionaires (i.e. anybody making over $100K per year) that the Sanders crowd advocated. Tulsi was a good looking female, and Democrats generally don’t like good looking females – at least not until they are old and full of wrinkles. And speaking of Hillary, according to her Tulsi is a Russian spy, which is currently out of fashion among Democrats.

        • Avatarstingray65

          Harris got picked because in his advanced senility Biden blurted out he would pick a woman of color as VP, and that greatly limited Democrat options. 1/1064th Cherokee Liz Warren is too blonde and is almost as old as Biden, Tank Abrams is not attractive, not smart, has financial scandals emerging, and has never won any significant office despite her crazy rants about winning the Governors office in Georgia, Maxine Waters is ancient and as dumb as a rock, Tulsi is too moderate and should probably be a Republican except she could never win in Hawaii as a Republican, which leaves Harris as the right age, right color, far Left to please the string pullers of the Democrat establishment, and with some national recognition.

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        • AvatarEric H

          Mopar,
          If your goal was to pick a VP who is the perfect person to direct the prosecution of the previous administration’s criminals I don’t think you could have made a better choice.

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          • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

            A senile head of state with an incipient fascist waiting in the wings, amidst an atmosphere of political street violence. Haven’t we seen this movie before?

            Yes, youre one of the baddies.

    • Avatardejal

      My sisters BIL lobbied at the high level. His Christmas card every year was Him, the wife, Bill + Hillary at a WH Christmas party for 8 years.

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    • AvatarDaniel J

      “I think anyone with more than 3 working brain cells knows that Biden will be ushered out before his first year as the president is over. ”

      Conspiracy theory!

      This is, sadly, how most of even the most rational left take this statement. I do know some lefties that voted for Biden *because* of Harris. I also know a few lefties who voted against Biden because of Harris.

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  11. AvatarHarry

    Biden or Harris, we can hope they go the way of Jefferson and do the opposite of the crazy shit they espoused in the before times, having been burdened by the crushing weight of their office.

    Trump would have performed better had he ever felt that burden.

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  12. AvatarWidgetsltd

    That was a fun read. Obama’s tendency to support military action abroad and to go along with corporate interests was frustrating to me. I suspect that the same will be true of Biden, if he prevails in this election. But hey – at least Biden will NOT be pushing all-out to destroy the government that we have worked hard to build since the days of the New Deal.

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    • AvatarDirty Dingus McGee

      “at least Biden will NOT be pushing all-out to destroy the government that we have worked hard to build since the days of the New Deal”

      You mean the government that increasingly punishes the working folks and rewards the layabouts? The one that seems to have to have a finger in every skirmish or civil unrest anywhere in the world? The one that is increasingly run by nameless, faceless, bureaucrats that push pages, no make that volumes, of regulations on the regular folks?

      If that was a tongue in cheek remark you made, I missed it. If you were serious, that government NEEDS to be destroyed, before it destroys whats left of this grand experiment.

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      • AvatarCJinSD

        He’s right about one thing. FDR wanted to throw out the constitution’s protections of the individual that stood in the way of his totalitarian ambitions.

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  13. AvatarCJinSD

    It’s like we threw out over two hundred years of history and voted out George Washington in favor of returning King George to power.

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    • AvatarNewbie Jeff

      “It’s like we threw out over two hundred years of history and voted out George Washington in favor of returning King George to power”

      The stupid, fearful, and weak truly want to be ruled. They want a powerful overlord that provides them with a facade of safety, sustenance, and nanny-statism. There’s no great heroism in facing life as a free individual, but it does take a small measure of fortitude that most Americans clearly lack now. That’s the price we pay for our prior betters building such a prosperous and generous society: that the wretched denizens of modern America are eager to squander that which they neither understand nor deserve.

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      • Avatarstingray65

        Truly amazing that so many could vote for a senile, corrupt Lefty who will be raising their taxes, displace their jobs with newcomers streaming through the open borders, send our technology to China, reduce the reliability and raise the price of their electricity and gasoline, and start sending any troublesome journalists, academics, scientists, or citizens to prison for expressing their 1st or 2nd amendment rights in ways that are deemed “hateful”. And when the lights go flickering out, the stores are empty, the dollar is worth less than used toilet paper, and the jails are full of political prisoners – you can be sure that President Harris and what remains of the media will be blaming Donald J. Trump for his divisive tweets.

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        • AvatarNewbie Jeff

          “Truly amazing that so many could vote for a senile, corrupt Lefty who will be raising their taxes”

          Is it really that surprising? Look at other comments here… most are unable to cite a specific Trump policy, or directly relate how Trump has made their lives or the country worse… they “just don’t like him”.

          Meanwhile the American Left rampages throughout American society, undermines the legitimacy of an elected president, then blames Trump for the destruction they caused… all because “they just don’t like him”.

          But I’m sure they’re all going to feel so much better now that Biden (Harris) will be sounding so much more like a real politician…

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          • AvatarEric H

            You want specifics?
            Trump’s tax cuts was for him and his rich donors. Anyone else that got a benefit was of no concern. It was a total “Fuck You” to to the average American taxpayer.

            Putting Wheeler in charge of the EPA is a fucking disaster. All he wants to do is destroy the EPA so large scale polluters can get back to business.

            Putting DeVos in charge of the Dept. of Education is another sad joke. All she wants to do is destroy the public education system and replace it with for-profit education, because “Fuck poor people.”

            Trump’s three Supreme court nomination are mostly a travesty. Kavanaugh is a semi-literate alcoholic. I haven’t read enough of Gorsuch’s opinions to gain a good understanding of his thinking. Barrett is a religious nutjob but if she can leave that crap at home there’s some hope for her. I also think Kagan is a moron as well, but that’s on Obama.

            I’m not against all of Trump’s polices. Pushing back against China is a good thing. Working to get H1-B visa fraud under control is a good thing. Securing borders and deporting illegal aliens is a good thing.
            It would have been nice if he didn’t go about trying to implement these polices in the dumbest fucking way possible.

            Policies come and go. What I want out of a leader is integrity, truthfulness, and enough brains not to make obvious blunders.

            Trump is a big zero in all measures.

            Is Biden any better? He’s definitely smarter than Trump, but I have no idea if he’s smart enough for the big chair. Biden is far more truthful than Trump whose every other sentence is an obvious lie, but in absolute terms Biden is a liar like every other politician. We’ll all see how much integrity Biden has when he’s done. If we’re lucky he’ll rise to the occasion and surprise us all.
            But probably not.

          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            “I’m not against all of Trump’s polices. Pushing back against China is a good thing. Working to get H1-B visa fraud under control is a good thing. Securing borders and deporting illegal aliens is a good thing.”

            Arguably that’s all that really matters, because without that you don’t have a country at all. Under the uniparty, we saw thirty million low-end jobs handed to Mexican immigrants and three million high-end jobs handed to Indian and Chinese immigrants. That’s something like one-fourth of all the jobs that actually exist in the United States, and under Biden they’ll open up the faucet and go for broke to double that number. I suspect you’ll also see the feeble growth of mass-employment industrial work vanish into thin air as corporations move back to China in perfect assurance of complicity from the government.

            The Uniparty model for this country is clearly Brazil: an entitled polyglot white/Jewish/Indian overclass of maybe ten million people enjoys permanent and assured position while the mostly brown favelas seethe beneath them. Note that there is no room in this model for 75 million white and black middle-class people. They have to go. The fact that it will take fifty years to make it happen doesn’t bother anyone too much. It’s taken us fifty years to get from 1970 to here, and the changes made in that time have made the country unrecognizable.

            Four more years of Trump would have gotten us: hundreds more factories, a few million more middle-class jobs to keep families intact, less wage erosion on the low end. It would have made a real difference to a lot of working people. Oh well. Didn’t fit the narrative.

          • AvatarNewbie Jeff

            You know, I wasn’t going to bother… but since you have essentially “self-owned” in front of everyone here… well, why not?

            “Trump’s tax cuts was for him and his rich donors. Anyone else that got a benefit was of no concern”

            You’re an unqualified idiot if you actually think this. The standard media hook for their sheep is to relate tax cuts in aggregates as opposed to proportions (that means percentages)… but regardless of how they duped you, how do square support for Biden? You’re angry because Trump’s (P.S… it’s actually Congress’s) tax cuts were a pittance, so you’re going to vote for the party that raises taxes? What sense does that make?

            “All he wants to do is destroy the EPA so large scale polluters can get back to business”

            Right. I’m sure the Obama-era EPA made a lot of common sense environmental regulation. That’s why no one is worried about climate change now. Anyway, we’d hate for companies to get back to business.

            “Putting DeVos in charge of the Dept. of Education is another sad joke. All she wants to do is destroy the public education system and replace it with for-profit education, because ‘Fuck poor people’ ”

            What in the literal fuck are you talking about? Charter school enrollment is exploding because even left-leaning suburban moms realize Democrats have flown public education into the side of a mountain. A hallmark of DeVos’ policy were vouchers for low-income families to send their children to charter schools… which of course teachers unions vehemently opposed because it’s much more important to keep children trapped in shitty public schools for their own interests.

            “Trump’s three Supreme court nomination are mostly a travesty”

            I love that you talk about career judges like you would somehow school them on case law. I don’t like how the left-wing of SCOTUS never breaks ranks, but I don’t have the insecurity to call any of them idiots. BTW… does being religiously observant render someone unqualified to serve in the government? What about Jewish or Muslim judges, secretaries, or administrators? Do you realize you just told the world you’re a bigot?

            “Biden is far more truthful than Trump whose every other sentence is an obvious lie, but in absolute terms Biden is a liar like every other politician. We’ll all see how much integrity Biden has when he’s done. If we’re lucky he’ll rise to the occasion and surprise us all”

            WTF is your news feed, TikTok? Let me explain something to you: Biden has been in Washington for 47 years. And you think he’s going to surprise you, or anyone else? It wasn’t year 10… or 20… or even 30. Nope, it’s year 48 that it all finally comes together and Biden becomes the leader we all knew he could be… what kind of drooling intellectual primate actually thinks there’s promise in Joe Biden?

            Oh… I guess you do.

          • AvatarEric H

            Jack,
            The three things I mentioned are the only things I agreed with Trump on. Everything else is he did was a shit show.
            One can hope that there continues to be pushback against China and H1-B visa abuse and there could be if the American people make it clear that it is what they want. I think it is likely that the policies against China will be the least affected by a Biden administration if only because of their horrendous human rights issues which are near-and-dear to the Dems hearts.

            And no, Trump would not have gotten any more factories in the US. All that would happen is they would move to another low-cost produce like Thailand or Vietnam. In my estimation, the war on the middle class is mostly a Republican thing started by Reagan and the Harvard economists.

            Jeff,
            I’m not trying to change your mind. I was asked for specifics beyond “Orange man bad” and I did. I did miss one of the worst, the appointment of Barr to AG is disgusting.
            Someone tasked with that position should not a political toadie.

            I could get into a big debate/argument of your rebuttal but it’s pointless. We each hold our own opinions and no matter how misguided yours are 🙂 I’m not going to tell you that you can’t have them.

          • AvatarNewbie Jeff

            “I could get into a big debate/argument of your rebuttal but it’s pointless”

            The reason it’s “pointless” is because your points don’t survive the slightest critical analysis. It occurred me that your worldview is likely representative of the majority of Biden voters… that is, formed by mainstream media media headlines and soundbites produced to effect a negative impact, while avoiding coherent discussion, all within a compressed time allotment to cram it on a front page or the TV. Thus, the meat of your argument is a collection of DNC-esque slogans like “Trump is a big zero” or “DeVos is destroying public education” or “Kavanaugh is semi-literate” or “fuck poor people”… the difference is, CNN cuts to a commercial but here you have to come face-to-face with better informed opponents who’ve clearly put more thought into this than you have.

          • AvatarDaniel J

            @Newbie Jeff,

            This is exactly how I take Trump’s accomplishments. His failures? Not being all that “presidential”. Losing, I think, in the China Tariff war. His retaliation against the media.

  14. AvatarDaveLemi

    What’s frightening is how quickly my kids started to believe the “Trump is a fascist and Trump is in it for the money” BS the youtubers and websites they visit were feeding them. No matter how many times I asked them to think about why the establishment right hates Trump just as much as the left, they never did so. Unfortunately they will learn what “justice”, “equal opportunity” and “leveling the playing field” truly mean. BTW, do we have the date when the mandatory gun buy-backs start?

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Your kids are no doubt influenced by Leftist social media that is never censored, demonetized, or dealgorithmed, but the more serious damage is likely done in the K through PhD schools where lessons in math, English, science, civics, and history have been replaced by indoctrination into Leftist ideology, victimhood, and Trump hate.

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    • Avatardejal

      If you are sitting on a pile of money, don’t threaten, just say. “Hard times are coming. You got what you wanted. My pile is mine. I’m not not going to scrimp on me. Could have been different, but you will live the results of your actions.”

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  15. Avatarstingray65

    Jack – the flaw in your otherwise very thoughtful essay is equating the Right with Nazis. The real Nazis were National Socialists, which meant they were for big government control of the economy and citizen rights – high taxes, heavy regulation of profits and corporate decision making, lots of government spending on welfare programs – “free healthcare and education”, absolute gun control, major public spending on public buildings and infrastructure (autobahn), and a heavy focus on identity politics and the State as a religion. Other than allowing some private ownership of heavily regulated business and property, Nazism is almost identical to Communism, so they are both on the extreme Left side of the political spectrum. And when you look at the political viewpoints of most modern “white supremacists” or “US Nazis” they are almost never “small government” believers, but instead want universal state provided healthcare and strong welfare system, high taxes, etc. The reason the media and the schools constantly tell us that Nazis were on the political Right is because the Left doesn’t want ownership of Hitler, although they increasingly seem to be taking up his viewpoint on Jews.

    Thus I don’t know if this “correction” to your essay makes your case on the lack of a Right Wing street “army” better or worse, because the Whitmer “kidnappers” and small bands of neo-Nazis are almost entirely Left leaning in their political preferences. The closest things to a Right Wing army are the Trump trains and the Tea Party movements which are for better or worse almost all peaceful law abiding citizens who in many cases have guns at home but wouldn’t dream of shooting a cop or soldier, or burning down the property of their political adversaries, and whose kids are being indoctrinated into radical Leftist ideologies in the schools and universities they pay taxes to support.

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    • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

      The revived KKK of the early 20th century alligned politically with the progressive movement.

      The fight between communists and fascists is intramural, they’re both leftist collectivists. Fascism only became a bad word on the left when Germany invaded Russia, breaking the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

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  16. Avatarstingray65

    The only silver lining that I can see from a Biden/Harris administration is that it will bankrupt most of the news media. Trump was the perfect money maker for the Leftist mainstream media because they could run hourly Fake News stories about his tweets and policies that were eagerly clicked by the legion of suffers from the mostly media induced Trump Derangement Syndrome. Trump also was a nice money maker for several Right leaning alternative news sources such as the Daily Wire and National Review, who could use their Never Trump staff to write clickbait stories for the small band of Never Trump readers and the larger group of pro-Trumpers who would rise to his defense. What are they going to do for clicks and income with Trump gone?

    Sure they will no doubt start with some click worthy stories on inauguration day about Biden’s sudden and serious mental decline and new and serious allegations of Biden family corruption, especially if he decides to moderate his positions on Court Packing, the Green New Deal, and reversing the Trump tax cuts that are near and dear to the Left, but once he is gone and President Harris takes over then what? The first female person of color President – any criticisms will almost certainly be seen a racist and sexist, and since only bad news sells that will mean the end of all major revenue streams for most of the mainstream media…unless President Harris decides she must nationalize the media (and social media) for national security purposes – Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Bezos, et al. won’t know what hit them as they get shoved out the door in favor of some Harris cronies.

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  17. AvatarPatrick King

    Thanks for this, Jack. I just finished reading it, as well as all the comments, and promoted it on my Facebook page as I often do. Particularly good.

    Also, thank you for the Scott Adams recommendation; I never miss his 10:00 am Periscope.

    Here’s another: The Markley & Van Camp Show, on podcasts.apple.com. It’s a same-day podcast of a morning radio show from Portland, Oregon whose “personalities” treat this same subject matter with as much humor as they do sophisticated insight. As a radio fan for as long as I can remember I appreciate their polished presentation. Most of the other podcasts I listen to feature narrators with nasal voices and weird accents and give the impression that the presenters did zero preparation for their shows and have no idea what they’re going to say next.

    Tedious.

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  18. Avatarhank chinaski

    Understand that all of the qualities that made BoomerCon clutch his pearls and vote for an empty suit like Jeb or Kasich in the 2016 primaries, or to stay home or vote Harris this time, won him the presidency. Twice. Warts and all, *nobody* else could have done it. He may have been a sonofabitch, but he was our sonofabitch.
    He might have been John the Baptist, but Trump was never Jesus. And Jesus is certainly never going to arise from this GOP.

    That said, he let himself get boxed in quite often, almost enough to make one think he was playing us as much as playing the game. He never vetoed a single budget. That alone would have kept the uniparty in Congress on its heels. Very few people that deserved it earned his signature ‘you’re fired’, and yet he canned Bannon. Sad!

    Letting @jack and his army of danger-hairs walk all over his tweets was embarrassing. He should have moved to gab and that would have been that.

    As for now? The sheer brazen theft of this election under our noses is telling. They are confident enough that should this end up at the SCOTUS somehow, Roberts and Barrett will squish. Because of course they will.

    Expect anarcho-tyranny to be turned up to eleven.
    (Channeling Archer) ‘Do you want Nazis? Because this is how you get Nazis.’

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        • Avatardejal

          Yeah, you might be right. Perot was the real deal and faded. Bush was an elitist fool. He was forced onto Reagan and believed in nothing that Reagan did. W made old man seem like Reagan. But, I do remember him trying to stick firm, being destroyed in the media and caving. For me, his caving disgusted me. He talked a good game but didn’t have the stones.

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          • Avatardejal

            I should say Perot was the real deal on economic issues. Pretty liberal (or libertarian) on a lot of stuff.

  19. Avatardejal

    Clarence Thomas ought to resign. There’s one more chance to fill the seat with a like minded individual. Preferably not a John Roberts type.

    I have no issues with morons voting Biden in without shenanigans. This is just evil. These morons are relishing in the cheat also.

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  20. Avatargtem

    For Trump to win FL and especially OH counties by such larger margins than 16, to flip Buffalo NY(!), then to be similarly showing similar indicators in MI, WI, PA late in the evening of election night… before suddenly a pause in counting, and then this random Biden surge at 4am(?). “The fix is in.” I hope it goes to the courts and we’ll see just how sloppy they were with ballot stuffing. I just hope enough of the GOP has the balls to back Trump up. If I were him I’d be holding daily rallies in all of these states. Might be a bunch of spineless bastards in the GOP but Trump’s got people ready to hit the streets.

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    • Avatarhank chinaski

      This. My blue district in a blue state flipped red for Trump, as did our US Congressional seat and another state level seat.

      Never let a crisis go to waste, in this case KungFlu to justify the mail-ins in the first place. It was not wholly surprising to see transparently never Trump Fox call AZ early, or to cut Rudy off during his piece in MI yesterday.

      Speaking of the KungFlu, we’ve lost our last local auto parts store, now left only with a national chain. The local restaurants and bars have kept their heads above water with outdoor seating, but the cold weather will drive them under, leaving only chains. Bezos is of course richer than ever and chatting about buying CNN.

      Normally, I’d consider beachside with Dingus above, but I’m dug in with the clones.

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  21. AvatarDR Smith

    Great article, as usual, Jack. That being said, I think in 2016 “Trump” was allowed to be elected to serve as the foil & enemy so the GlobalCorp International Socilaist party could have a free hand in impleemnting the agendas under the cover of the constant distractions provided by Trump. He really did not give a voice to the disinfranchised people…in fact, this time around he has shamelessly pandered to minorities (the Platinum Plan) and pretty much forgot his so called base this time around.

    I’ll go with a bold prediciton – Trump will be allowed to “win” again only so the the final keys legs of the plan are put in place to bascially create a permenant surf class in the USA with the elite ruling class palying the role of benenolvet Lords & Lady’s by “providing” us free health care, free eduction, even Universal Basic Income. Of course, the ocst for all this will be mandatory vaccinations, mandatory use of technology (like the CCP forces on their citizens), – slowly but surely, all your choices will be reduced to very few to one, and firget about rising out of your circumstances. That will be a quaint notion relegated to stores told around dinner tables and you and your family eat your grule. I’m a first tier Gen X’er, and I think we are the last generation for a long time that would have been able to succeed more in life than our parents; but we are losing ground quickly to the point we are losing any gains we had and will end up like our Grandparents. Our kids will have it worse, and sometimes that feeling of powerless can be overwhelming to my wife and myself.

    Grim, yes….but you see, it is my belief that things are all a bit too conveinent, and that there is a better than 50/50 chance Trump is in on the joke and really getting into his role as the “enmey” to the left. The globalists are full on into implementing total socialism in the USA so the the rest of the World (minus Russia) follow suit. EU is already there, but the reminas of the old Soviet block are being stubbon with that regard. They have been marching us into this pen for a long time now, since before World War II, we have always been too distracted to notice, and it is liekly too late. As I told my wife as we made plans to relocate from the Midwest to Southern US Gulf Coast area (we literally do not know anyone down there), if we are going to live in a prison, I’d rather be as comortable as possible…and I really mean this, if things get as bad as some fear (such as VoxDay who has called the ending of USA as we know it by 2030), you don’t want to be above the Mason Dixon line when you have to make choices between such basics as food, shelter, or heat. UBI might allow to live with food, but your shelter choices will be very limited, as will your transportation choices, etc. It will be very much worse for today’s average American before it ever gets better.

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  22. AvatarPaul M.

    I am not sure why any one expected different results from this system of mail in voting than what we are experiencing. I mean I don’t trust US mail with anything sensitive or important. That is what UPS and FedEx are for. Next time enable online voting with two way authentication with a code sent to cell phone instead of this dinosaur age system we have now. Allow in person and early voting for those without cell phones.

    Republicans have a demographic problem. They can look at Colorado, Virginia, Arizona, Nevada, even Georgia now to see what is happening. I have lived in a northeast Atlanta suburb for 35 years having moved from Midwest (Indiana). My county used to be 80% white. It is now at most 50% white, rest are many Asians (Koreans and Chinese and Vietnamese), Hispanics, and many African Americans and Indians. For most instances life goes on. But demographics have changed. These are not liberal folks. But Trump’s deranged first debate performance, and his constant dog whistles that are used by those who love identity politics, have caused him to lose his razor thin edge of first term election. He won the first election as a surprise by help from Midwest. Instead of being a president for all, he decided to continue his madman persona and play only to his base. Well it is what it is. At least Biden and Harris while far from being ideal candidates, don’t have a plan to destroy social security and medicare by stopping collection of those social security income taxes. They won’t give even more tax breaks to the wealthiest or corporations who in turn use it to buy back their own stocks. They have plans for health care and infrastructure while Trump just talks. Good riddance.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Paul M – So Republican need to embrace open borders, free abortion up until the day of birth, free college for the low IQ, free healthcare for illegals, high taxes for the successful and hard workers, heavy regulation and expensive energy for industry, put transgenders in the ladies locker room, and tear up the Constitution written by slave owners, and all the people of color will start voting Republican? In other words, if Republicans just out-Left the Democrats the mainstream media will find Fake scandals involving Democrats to put on the front pages, while Republicans can steal elections and make corrupt deals with foreign dictators and the media will cheer them on? Wow, have you thought about becoming a political consultant?

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      • AvatarPaul M.

        You live in Trump’s world. Where you are good with giving more tax breaks to rich and wealthy. Trump talked a good talk about forgotten men and women of America, but those same men and women in Midwestern states turned on him because they realized it was empty talk. He wants to get rid of Obama care with no health plan. Jobs did not come back. So now you talk open borders and identity politics instead of bread and butter and his failure in a national policy to control the pandemic. Good luck being wrong. You just lost a election because people realized Trump is what he is, a con man.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          Paul M. Do you mean the tax breaks for the rich and wealthy that eliminated their ability to deduct state and local taxes from their IRS returns, which Biden, Pelosi and Schumer have promised to reinstate? Do you mean the “no health plan” that got rid of the Obamacare mandate that forced middle income people to buy policies loaded with expensive mandated coverage they couldn’t afford with deductibles that made the policies worthless, and instead allowed them to buy more affordable policies? As for jobs, are you conveniently forgetting the jobs that did come back during 2017 to early 2020 resulting in record low unemployment and record increases in wages for low income and people of color until the Chinese sources pandemic hit, or the record economic recovery from the pandemic that was only stymied by Democrat governors intent on maintaining a lock-down until Biden is declared the winner? As for the pandemic policy itself, do you mean Trump’s failure to heed Biden’s criticisms of banning travel from China and Europe that even Fauci called a huge lifesaver, or his running roughshod over the ineffective WHO and CDC to cut the red tape and allow record setting procurement of respirators, new treatments, and development of a vaccine? Or do you suggest Trump should have follow the lead of the UK, Italy, Belgium, France, Brazil, and Russia who have far higher Covid death rates per capita than the US? If Trump has lost the election, it is entirely due to fraud and a whole lot of misinformed and deluded voters like you.

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  23. AvatarTAFKADG

    Jack, I know I’m in the minority here, but I really wish you’d quit writing about cars/guitars and double down on socio-political content. You’re really, really good.

    For serious.

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    • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

      I once told Jack while he was noodling on his Rainsong, “You know, if you practiced more, you could be a professional guitarist.”

      He replied, “True, but to do so I’d have to give up writing and all the other things that make me money.”

      JB’s arguably the best automotive writer these days, and saying he writes about cars is a bit like saying Hemmingway wrote about fishing.

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  24. AvatarRonnie Schreiber

    I’ve been saying all along that Trump needed to exceed the margin of fraud, he didn’t, so in that sense he failed.

    He was, however, at the head of a ticket that gained seats in the House, held the Senate (pending runoff elections in Georgia in January), and increased power in the state legislatures in a census year (giving Rs power over federal congressional redistricting). Even in California, leftist ballot proposals lost. Without Trump energizing turnout in his behalf would those things have happened?

    The Electoral College and the disproportionate impact of large urban areas on it can sometimes obscure the influence of a presidential election on down-ticket races.

    Democrats are lucky that Republicans and conservatives love America more than they love their political ideologies. Republicans, right now, have the constitutional power to have the state legislatures they control appoint Trump electors, which would keep him in the White House, but they’ll never do that.

    While a general strike, or farmers and truckers blockading Interstate highways leading to D.C., NYC, and LA, is too much to hope for (those on the right have jobs and businesses to attend to), the least that I expect from Republican senators is to protect the republic with complete political gridlock. Confirm no Biden-Harris appointees, none of them, pass no budgets. The Democrats have shown how much scorn they have for America and Americans. Fuck ’em, and if the Senate Republicans aren’t 100% obstructionists, fuck ’em too.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Ronnie – I highly doubt anyone on the Trump team thought the margin of fraud would be well over 100,000 votes as it appears to be in just about every swing state, which is absolutely unprecedented.

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      • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

        The Democrats and the media (BIRM) have been brazenly lying and moving goalposts right in front of our eyes for years.

        They don’t understand how dangerous this is to our republic, but then they don’t believe in republics, they only believe in power.

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    • AvatarKeith

      Ronnie I agree on the first sentiment but it’s clearly not possible since they’ve been allowed to generate as many votes as are needed to win.

      The senate idea is nice, but they are well on the way to stealing that too.

      Do really thing sleepy currupt pedo joe inspired record turn out? Far more than the golden boy obama? They would have printed 10 million more votes if they needed to.

      The only upside is that trump won so bigly that the fraud is egregious and exposed. Now there is a clear mandate from his large and energized base to finally go and do something about it.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Just saw that Hillary did better than Biden in every major city in America except Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta – must be all those big rallies sleep Joe held in those cities that put him over the top.

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    • AvatarNewbie Jeff

      “The Democrats have shown how much scorn they have for America and Americans”

      Those triggered by Trump’s lack of “likeability” have a massive blind spot for this truth… nothing about Biden represents anything better for Americans. As Biden starts to talk like the president, it’s clear that the Swamp has returned to Washington. Democrats didn’t pick him because he can do anything for Americans… Democrats picked him because his name recognition would barely carry them across the finish line while setting up Harris for the future. Democrats picked Biden for them… not the country.

      There you go, Biden voters… everything is “back to normal” now. Trump endured a daily vicious onslaught from every corner of elitist influence and entrenched government power, and still showed up to fight for you every day of his administration. Biden will have the winds of cultural, political and corporate power at his back, they’ll literally carry him, and he won’t do a fucking thing for you.

      But, hey… at least he’ll sound like politics as usual.

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  25. AvatarDougD

    The conspiracy is even wider than that. I suspect that 74 million people conspired to vote against the President. So simple, yet so cunning.

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    • AvatarNewbie Jeff

      “The conspiracy is even wider than that. I suspect that 74 million people conspired to vote against the President”

      Sort of a mindless comment, but one that perhaps warrants a response… I think it’s important to remember that Biden was handily defeated in initial Democratic primaries. Sanders, Buttigieg, Yang all won or did surprisingly well… Biden wasn’t even among the top 3 finishers. I think it’s safe to say that if you’re voting Democrat, and you really wanted something different, these candidates in some ways better represented that… at least certainly better than Joe Biden.

      Yet, only after the huge Democratic field stepped aside did it allow less… uh, engaged? …voters to coalesce around Biden… that was my point about name recognition.

      If you’re glad Biden won, you have to reconcile the reality that now he’s actually going to be president. That may sound silly, but I’m willing to bet a lot of Democrat voters solely focused on defeating Trump haven’t really thought much past that… I mean, really: what does Joe Biden offer other than he’s simply not Trump? For a party that professes to hate corporate power, hate incumbents, hate money in politics, hate old white guys, and is obsessed with perpetual change, the Democrats sure served up an “interesting” candidate.

      The point is… the Democratic party won. America did not. Sooner or later, you’ll come to realize that.

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  26. AvatarShocktastic

    No big surprise here: Republican voter suppression in places like Florida lost to big city Democrat machine ballot-stuffing in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Not that the Democrat machine in New York state doesn’t use voter roll purging to swing primary elections when it suits them. I thought the Cuomo machine would memory-hole AOC but good on her she licked the right fingers to stay alive.

    This election was really between two pseudo-Republicans. Trump commented publicly in support of gay marriage years before his political career and years before Obama made any policy changes. Meanwhile Biden has flirted with social security privatization, fund-raised for a Republican senator, and kicked off his first 2019 campaign fund-raiser hosted by the Republican CEO of Blue Cross Independence. The ACA was drafted from a template borrowed from a conservative think-tank! Banksters, Wall Street, Big Pharma, and Insurance went all in on Biden Harris. Harris was responsible for policies that kept more black men in prison in California than an army of long dead Klansmen. Team D dropped billions this election cycle to barely win the presidency,lost ground in the House, and failed to swing the Senate. And Paul M, rumors of the demographic death of team R are MSM tripe: many Hispanics and blacks are religious and anti-abortion. Imagine being a small businessperson whose small business was destroyed by a Covid lockdown while Walmart,Costco, and Amazon was left open to feast! Team D has gone all-in on lockdown. Strangely enough, the Michigan governor lockdown queen was subject to an abduction plot by anarchists (where are those Proud Boys when the MSM needs them?).

    Some of the best takeaways from this election come from Socialist sites like Jacobin and Counterpunch who are accusing Team D of being the Washington Generals by giving away progressive goals to lure white suburban voters:

    https://jacobinmag.com/2020/11/takeaways-election-night-trump-biden-democrats

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  27. AvatarShocktastic

    Plus we all know the denouement of the Biden administration: leaks and rumors of Hunter & Daddy corruption with all sorts of MSM articles about how Kamala Harris reinvigorates the vice presidency followed by Uncle Joe’s graceful retirement….or they go Scalia and snuff him with a full state funeral and long faces and the whole 25th Amendment thing.

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  28. AvatarPatrick King

    I would hear comments from other Democrats along the lines of, “I’d vote for anybody on that debate stage, well, other than Tulsi Gabbard of course.” I could never figure out why she was snubbed.

    I actually sent her $20 and I never do that.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      She is a good looking moderate who would probably be a Republican in most states except Hawaii. Mainstream Democrats hate good looking moderates.

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  29. AvatarPatrick King

    “Democrats generally don’t like good looking females – at least not until they are old and full of wrinkles. And speaking of Hillary, according to her Tulsi is a Russian spy, which is currently out of fashion among Democrats.”

    Stingray, you are a hoot! And I do remember Hillary’s Russian spy comments.

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  30. Avatarhank chinaski

    Tulsi’s biting exchange with Harris in the early debate probably did as much to knock her out as Harris’ awful personality. Being both a tech and finance industry favorite, a brown woman, and a literal prostitute, Harris was the inside favorite from the beginning. Gabbard also spoke against the forever war and traded barbs with Hillary. After all this, I’m almost surprised she’s still alive.

    The Biden ‘rally’ to an audience of empty Jeeps is most amusing. Orwell is chuckling.

    Both AOC and Antifa are threatening to ‘go after’ Trump supporters based on donation maps.

    Rudy took down the five mafia families and Trump, no stranger to courtroom, thrives on theatrics. The odds are long, given the SCOTUS makeup, but these chads will be hanging til certification in December.

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  31. AvatarMopar4wd

    The biggest issue is the right liked her. I’m actually not sure why she seemed to want socialized medicine and free college-daycare-preschool.
    Both parties have issues with crossover candidates as the base has trust issues.
    She Also had some LGBT issues and the fued with Clinton. And this election the runners were picked by the DNC not voters this year.

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  32. AvatarRonnie Schreiber

    It’s disappointing to see so many people, some of whom I respect, who are more embarrassed by having Donald Trump as their president than they are by cheating to defeat him.

    Does anyone doubt, if it was the Democrats who controlled the state legislatures in GA, PA, NC, and MI and it was Trump who was apparently ahead, that the Democrats wouldn’t use their power under Article II to override the vote and appoint Biden electors?

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    • AvatarDR Smith

      The question is Ronnie, why do you still respect some of them? This has always been the problem, most of the people either moderate or right are will to repsect and listen to the leftist, but the leftist – not so much ever, and now, never.

      Put another way, sooner or later, there will be a fight and sides will need to be choosen – you will not be allowed to NOT choose. We all must choose wisely…

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      • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

        The question is Ronnie, why do you still respect some of them?

        It’s a small number. I’d prefer to not be like leftists and pick my friends based entirely on politics. It’s nice to have some disagreement, it keeps your arguments honest.

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        • Avatardejal

          If they expect you to keep your side of the argument honest, but they don’t, there’s no need to treat them like friends. That’s a St Greta of Cabbage Patch “How Dare Your!!!!” move on your part. You are supposed to bend over and take it.

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  33. AvatarShocktastic

    I think the best summation of the current crew running the national Democrat machine came from this comment on a thread on NakedCapitalism:

    “The Democrats [nationally] are allied with literally every group of [the] worst people in this country — Wall St, Big Tech, traditional media, social media, the security state, the healthcare industry, the foreign policy psychopaths, private prisons, the free-trade parasites, every kind of non-profit charity and NGO grift, etc. Industrial scale professional corruption is coming back with a vengeance to replace Trump’s family-owned & gifted amateur corruption.”

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