Weekly Roundup: Axe Body Spray And The Approved Police Brutality Edition

From five feet away, he missed the headshot.

But you can’t say he wasn’t trying.

There were many people he could have shot.

He could have shot no one; in fact, after he fired his shot, the crowd dispersed in a manner that suggests it would have done so just as readily had he fired into the ceiling.

Instead, he made a single incompetent attempted headshot that struck Ashli Babbitt in the neck. You can hear her trying to breathe in the video. She’s alive for minutes. There is a single tear rolling from her left eye as it glazes over.

Ashli Babbitt served her country in Afghanistan, Iraq, and the United Arab Emirates — but it took an American to kill her, inside the building paid for and maintained with her tax dollars.

Shortly after her death, a blizzard of corporations — Chase, Bank of America, Chevron, Citigroup, American Express, Coca-Cola, Axe Body Spray — released statements condemning her murder in the same passionate terms they’d used to condemn the deaths of Jacob Blake, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Tamir Rice, and Trayvon Martin.

Just kidding.

They’re totally cool with it, and they want to make sure you know that.

I want to start by saying something personal: Prior to this week, I had thought that most, if not all, of the people who had stood up and spoken out about the various police killings in the past year or so were motivated by genuine concerns about American society. I had thought that they were as troubled by the idea of a militarized police force as I have often personally been, that they had latched on to these often nebulous or “problematic” heroes and heroines not in spite of the many extenuating circumstances but because of them. In other words — if you can get killed for selling loose cigarettes or passing counterfeit money while hopped up on fentanyl, maybe that’s a case of unbalanced force at work. I don’t know anybody who will deny that Vicki Weaver’s husband cut a shotgun barrel a full quarter-inch short of the legal limit, but I know plenty of people who will agree that she didn’t agree to be executed by FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi as a result.

In other words: I thought we could all agree that there is a problem with administering the death penalty ad hoc for non-death-penalty crimes.

I was wrong about that. It turns out that this was a straight Blue Tribe vs. Red Tribe issue. The only time any lives at all “matter” is when they can be used to make an appropriate political point. The joke was on me, and on people like me who tried to have a moral or centrist view of the matter, the whole time.

Arthur Chu isn’t a terribly important person — he was on Jeopardy! a while back, I think that’s the extent of his fame — but his sentiments have been widely echoed across the Internet. It’s worth noting that he felt perfectly comfortable expressing these sentiments in public; we all know that America’s “cancel culture” only really works in one direction. There’s also been a lot of hilarity expressed about the fact that a rural woman carrying a “Don’t Tread On Me” flag was trampled to death in a crowd panic.

And why not laugh about it? These people aren’t people. Can’t you read what Chu wrote? Trump’s supporters — this 34-year-old woman who ran her own pool supply business and who spent her youth standing with a rifle in front of a military base instead of partying through five years of an Ivy League education — they’re not human. You can kill them without remorse. They don’t deserve to live. Armed, unarmed, leaning against a window or not leaning against a window, it doesn’t matter. In Chu’s words, “A pile of meat… was made to stop moving”.

Behold the glory of Man! He starts as a “clump of cells” and eventually becomes a “pile of meat”!

It’s worth noting that never on the Internet, and I mean not once, have I ever read any suggestion that Breonna Taylor was a “pile of meat” impersonating a human being. Yes, she might have sold a lot of drugs, and yes she might have let someone use her car to hide and move a dead body, but nobody’s claiming that she was an animal, for God’s sake. We reserve descriptions like “pile of meat” for female Air Force veterans and small-business owners.

One autowriter-adjacent person, no need to name and shame him here, told his followers that the Capitol protestors weren’t “real Americans” because they probably don’t hold a passport or speak a second language. This post received hundreds of Likes, because he’s obviously right. Imagine thinking you’re a real American because you live here and speak English, when everybody knows that real Americans are global, polyglot nonentities. About Ashli Babbitt, who was well-traveled and bilingual, our fancy photographer said nothing.

Similarly, the occupation of the Capitol is being described as an “insurrection”, language that was noticeably absent back when Sunrise Movement took over Nancy Pelosi’s office or when the Women’s March knocked the Capitol cops off the steps. They don’t even use the word “insurrection” for the 1954 attack in which Puerto Rican nationalists shot five Congressmen from the balcony! (The eventual fate of the shooters? Jimmy Carter pardoned them!) It’s worth nothing that this “insurrection” had no obvious purpose, contained no replacement shadow government people, and indeed may have been largely the result of Capitol Police moving the barriers apart and waving people through… but since when have we let truth, or reality, influence our major media coverage of an event?

Ashli Babbitt’s body wasn’t cold before our Uniparty spoke with a single voice on this MOST HORRIFYING EVENT TO EVER HAPPEN IN THE HISTORY OF EVENTS. The same people who told us that “it’s not wrong to damage property” now rhapsodized about the unforgivable crime of sitting in Nancy Pelosi’s sacred chair. The talking heads who babbled about police violence and cops wearing fatigues saw no problem in expressing OUTRAGE that the the police didn’t have a line of M2 Machine Guns, .50 Caliber, standing by to yeet these clumps of meat into the Baby Jesus Afterlife.

The most surprising part of it, for me, was seeing the road-to-Damascus conversion that appeared to strike many leading left-wing figures. Four years ago, they were all “God DAMN America” and “America Was Never Great” and “America is a Fascist Nation Built On Slavery”. This week, they fairly sobbed with love and reverence for the white dome of the Capitol. I’ve worn out my corneas reading all these heartfelt paeans to the beauty and righteousness of American government by people who just months ago firmly held the opinion that the whole institution was a literal reincarnation of the National Socialist Party. It was even more touching than all the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez types who have Tweeted lovingly about civil unrest and burning buildings far away from where they live but whose immediate response to seeing unwashed Americans in the rotunda was SHOOT THEM SHOOT THEM ALL FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Is there anything we can learn from this? A few things come to mind:

  • Not all protests, victims, or martyrs are created equal. You can expect that Ashli Babbitt will disappear from news coverage in this cycle. In the future, when they refer to her, it will be something along the lines of “White Nationalist And Criminal, Ashli Babbitt”. There’s already a report that she had an altercation a while back with her husband’s ex-girlfriend. You can expect that sort of thing to define her.
  • We have finally reached the era of total unity, meaning zero public dissent. The totally-not-fraudulent-despite-the-appearance-of-the-same-weird-F-shape-vote-count-graph Georgia runoff, presided over by Stacy Abrams with some help from her federal judge sister, has unified the American government under the rule of Kamala Harris Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. They have the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. They also have every social media company, every major corporation, every credit card payment processor, every webhost, every telcom provider. The most prominent conservative voice left in America is either Jon Voight or the MyPillow guy, I’m not sure which. They are going to pass a new Patriot Act. This one will do to outspoken American white people what the original Patriot Act did to outspoken overseas brown people, namely provide an excuse to attack, kill, and rendition them without trial. Some wag has already said it should be called “The Prevention Of Patriots Act”.
  • Don’t expect that any sense of unity or humanity will restrain anyone’s actions. You read what Arthur Chu wrote, right? If you disagree with him, you’re a pile of meat. Last time I checked, there were no particular rules about what you could do to a pile of meat, unless you were preparing it to sell in a hamburger.

The most critical lesson of all, however, is this: If you can bring yourself to do it, stop thinking about politics and focus on your family, yourself, your future. I don’t care if you’re an Antifa soldier in Portland or the grandmother of a Proud Boy. These violent delights have violent ends. We are going to see some nasty stuff in the future. Try not to be part of it. You think that you’ll become famous, or at least notorious. You won’t. You’ll end up like the fellow hit in the head by a falling statue, who will be living with the consequences of that long after everyone forgets the incident. Or you’ll end up like Ashli Babbitt, mis-shot at point blank by a murderer in a $300 suit. Take that energy and put it into the people you love, instead of directing it at the people you hate. It will have a greater effect.

Last but not least, I’d like to ask that we all keep our personal lines of communication open, even with the people who disagree with us about this incident and others. If you think this really was an insurrection, don’t stop loving your cousin or neighbor who thinks it was the Boston Tea Party — and vice versa. If we let this news media, this social media, and this “pandemic” atomize us, then I guarantee The Bad Guys Will Win. It doesn’t even matter who you think the Bad Guys are.

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For Hagerty, I wrote about the perception gap of exotic cars.

185 Replies to “Weekly Roundup: Axe Body Spray And The Approved Police Brutality Edition”

  1. AvatarMD Streeter

    I’ve avoided posting anything political on my Facebook page for several years now. I made a few exceptions last summer to share some links my parents asked for, but for the most part I’m sharing the music videos for my favorite Japanese rock and heavy metal bands and links to my own cheesy fiction. I’m sharing your piece today, you bring up so many of the same points I’ve thought about since the “insurrection” happened this week. I can deal with the cognitive dissonance of a certain amount of hypocrisy, but seeing people who were perfectly fine with burning down cities suddenly weeping over this was too much. I think other people are having similar experiences. When I fired back at something one of my more liberal friends posted he expressed his weariness concerning the violence that only seems to be escalating. I’ve made it a pint to not unfriend or unperson people who think and feel differently from me, and I have not taken others up on their offer to unperson me, it’s exhausting and I don’t think it will last. It can’t last, right? I can’t remember the last time I wasn’t tired of what passes for our news cycle. Except maybe the Cuties outrage, I couldn’t get enough of that.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      There’s no point in resistance that isn’t effective. Either we need to fire up the American Provos or we need to hope this all blows over. The middle ground, where we allow the Uniparty to make sacrifical goats out of people, is the worst course of all.

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      • AvatarCJinSD

        They need to feel accountable. Look at how they roll over for every kind of terrorist. There’s no secular humanist belief in the people that matter taking huge casualties. There are seven people in the entire federal government that haven’t picked their comfort over upholding their oaths to the constitution. We didn’t get this experiment in individual rights by waiting for those in power to come to their senses. Whatever we do will be reported as being the greatest crime in human history, even if it is just not stopping a few Antifans with stolen banners. Make it count. The alternative is playing cultural revolution roulette.

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      • Avatartrollson

        A bit defeatist, isn’t it? If you believe that resistance is truly futile, why defy the uniparty with writing like this?

        By the way, maybe consolidating the entire internet into data centers owned by two megacorps was not a very good idea, as we are in the process of finding out.

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      • Avatarsgeffe

        There’s unfortunately going to have to be bloodshed here! I don’t have the capability to do it! But see what’s happening with Twitter, and Parler goes silent at midnight (hosted on AWS, the Bezos “clown”)! Instead of the Capitol, perhaps there needs to be an “invasion” at Zuckerberg’s, Twitter’s, and Amazon’s headquarters. Just sayin’, for a friend.

        You piss off, and tell 80+MM people to go fuck themselves long enough, eventually there’s gonna be pushback!

        Perhaps it would have been better if something like this would have happened the day that ugly Nancy strutted up to the Capitol steps with the gavel in the air to take over the Nation’s health care system by passing OsamaCare.

        God help the USA.

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  2. AvatarCliffG

    At this point I have to question the sanity of anyone who holds any major institution with anything other than complete contempt. The FBI, CIA, Justice Dept., corporate media, education, CDC, etc. have all proved themselves somewhere between incompetent (being charitable) to corrupt. Act accordingly.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      I agree, but the problem with acting accordingly is how to act. How do we vote the corrupt buggers out in 2022 if they just manufacture enough votes in the middle of the night to win the necessary offices and majorities? How do we organize successful campaigns and insurgencies if all social media coordinate to shut down conservative/libertarian voices, organizations, and fund raising? And even if we through some miracle do win an election with a swamp draining candidate, how do they actually drain the swamp when the other side uses lawfare to use Leftist judges to prevent the dismantling of any regulation or agency the Left desires to keep? We can protest in the streets and capital buildings, but the media and Leftist politicians of both parties will crucify the protesters, get them fired from their jobs, bankrupt their business, and arrest them and bankrupt them in court before sending them to Covid infected jails now empty of real criminals, and GoFundMe won’t provide any help in supporting bail-out fund raising. The only weapon remaining and only remaining threat to Leftist hegemony are the several hundred million privately owned guns in US households, which is why cancelling or weakening the 2nd amendment will be a top priority of the Biden administration.

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  3. AvatarBill

    Arthur Chu known as a successful and graceless contestant. I remember rooting for him to lose. I believe the late Alex actually chastised him on air. Never saw him again.
    Let’s keep it that way.

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    • AvatarJim

      The answer to why the author chose such an obscure figure on which to base his argument is clear. Why bother to build a strawman when you can search through millions of Twitter users for a real person who suits your purposes perfectly?

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        • AvatarJim

          If you search hard enough, you can find an example of a person who believes in any position. It will help your argument if the person you find appears to lack empathy for human life.

          Using rhetorical slight of hand, and the emotions or your readers, you then make this extreme example represent the entire group on the receiving end of your argument.

          What Jack is doing is nothing new, it’s just easier now.

          His argument would have been more forceful if Jack had picked a prominent person in a position of power instead of just using the annoying Jeopardy guy.

          A special touch is that after being called on this BS, the response was “hey buddy, you are just not reading the right media. Go read the Dilbert guy, he will set you straight.”

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          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            This website is 100% free so I’m not really responsible for helping people understand posts, but…

            * You’re correct that it’s easy to find one person in millions expressing an opinion — unless you’re looking for a right-wing opinion of equal force. Go look through your millions and find me someone who said the same thing about any BLM-cause individual and who was not immediately silenced and/or deplatformed. That’s what you’re missing. This is a one-way conversation.

            * My response to Greg (Widgets) had nothing to do with Arthur Chu. He was stating that “This stuff is like objective reality seen through a funhouse mirror.” I was pointing out that his objective reality was unlikely to be any more objective than theirs, and to look at the “Fine People Hoax” for a measure of how well or poorly he had internalized the lessons of mass media.

          • AvatarNewbie Jeff

            “Using rhetorical slight of hand, and the emotions or your readers, you then make this extreme example represent the entire group on the receiving end of your argument”

            This literally defines the entire volume of American left-wing “news” sources, leftist satire and entertainment, and online progressive culture content. Right-wing partisan instigators are of course guilty of this, but possess zero cultural power in our current progressive dystopia… It’s like the entire American Left is a Google algorithm of your quote.

  4. AvatarSnavehtrebor

    “Well, it looks like Baruth has ripped the fenders off yet another DPi prototype in just the first hour of this twenty-four-hour race. It doesn’t look like he’s particularly worked-up about it. Hold on, it appears the medical car is bringing him a filet and shot of vodka.”
    In my head I hear John Hindhaugh pronouncing it “fillett” as he half shouts the commentary. Bravo.

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  5. AvatarLynnG

    Insurrection and unhinged is in the eye of the beholder. The events of this week would not fit even the most “liberal’ defination of an insurrection but that does not matter. However, if you want to see unhinged in action watch 60 Minutes tonight (Sunday January 9). From the promos it is a clear example of unhinged…..

    And in case your host has not seen the information in the news article below:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/simon-schuster-hawley-capitol-riots-456152
    May make Jack, ask who will they “cancel” next? 🙂 You know that great contribution to the body of literature that is only a few decades away…. may not get an opportunity to see print… 😉

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  6. Avatarstingray65

    “The whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable.” Apparently AOC only means discomfort for deplorable small business owners and property owners who have their livelihoods and residences destroyed, and “racist” local police who face “peaceful” protesters shooting industrial fireworks and throwing bricks and Molotov cocktails in cities all over the country, but definitely not elected officials in our nation’s capital who don’t want to confront uncomfortable questions about election fraud in the “people’s house”. Approximately 50% of the nation’s voters believe the November elections were fraudulent, and the courts and elected officials have let the public down by offering no transparent or rigorous attempt to offer verified proof that their concerns are not legitimate. I’m not holding my breath, because we still don’t have official answers or any accountability regarding the attempts to subvert the 2016 elections and the Trump presidency, because such answers and accountability would be very inconvenient to the narrative and plans of the media and swamp creatures who are now back in full control. Thus I think it is safe to say that there will be no interest from the Biden DOJ in investigating fraud claims regarding 2020.

    We have no Democracy and we will have no functioning government if half the population has no faith in the honesty of public officials and the even-handedness of the justice system, and yet questioning or protesting such things is now deemed insurrection and sedition by not only Democrats and the media, but also far too many Republicans, because a few uncomfortable Legislators can’t handle some broken windows and some citizens taking selfies in their offices. They should instead be thinking they got lucky that the whole place wasn’t burned to the ground and multiple cops, officials and bystanders weren’t assassinated as they have been over the past few years by Leftists agitating over non-existent problems and injustices. Instead they plan to impeach Donald Trump, throw the book at only these protesters, and social media is quickly and efficiently taking down all conservative voices and fundraising ability from their platforms, which they have had good practice doing for their Chinese Communist party clients. There is no viable path to justice besides revolution – the USA is dead.

    I will finish with another quote that comes to mind – this time by someone who had an actual functioning brain:
    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants” – Thomas Jefferson. I think the tree is very much in need of a good long drink.

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    • AvatarElcivicobajo

      People believing nonsense can’t be disproven. The courts threw out every claim because there was no proof. Didn’t matter if it was state or federal court. Republican or democrat judge. The only proof was Trump’s claims. Put up some evidence or shut up…. and nothing was ever put up.

      People believe because Trump keeps saying it… not because there’s any proof. Any they don’t believe any evidence to the contrary. So … at some point you just have to let irrational people be irrational and call it a day.

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      • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

        Let’s be accurate about this. The majority of the lawsuits were not dismissed for lack of evidence. That’s not something that happens in three days. They were thrown out for lack of standing on the part of the petitioners, or for laches after the fact. There was a Catch-22 in effect; if you sue before the election you have no standing because you haven’t been harmed yet but it you sue after it’s laches because the election has already happened and is too big to fail, so to speak.

        This is why it is so critical to have a fair and honest election, and why the suitcases of ballots are such a slap in the face. Because there’s nothing you can do about it.

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        • Avatartrollson

          Isn’t it a little odd that the very same people who were expressing public concern about election integrity in 2016 for example, are now claiming that there is nothing to worry about?

          Election integrity is not a red vs blue problem. The sooner we realize this, the sooner we can work together to fix it.

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          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            This is the safest and most secure election in history!

            I mean, it was basically the 2016 election plus a veritable avalanche of mail-in ballots, some delivered via EMS from China, but it would be racist to feel any other way!

        • AvatarDaniel Jason Sharpe

          Ted cruz explained the latches perfectly. He said the PA court system is being dishonest and not following the law. Lawyers know you can’t sue until injury or infringement has actually occured. Thats how the courts have worked for over 200 years.

          I don’t know about GA or other states. It’s OBVIOUS to anyone who has half a brain cell that PA broke its own state laws and they’ve gotten away with it.

          I keep telling my democrat friends that they say conservatives aren’t being empathetic towards others. So I present a world where a blue state changed its voter laws to favor Trump where that state broke its own laws.

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      • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

        You’re more embarrassed at having a boor for a president than you are at cheating to remove him. If Trump is the monster you say his is, why wouldn’t you cheat to remove him?

        Do you want to live in a one party state, like California, where your choice to vote is between two Democrats? Do you want to live in a country where the Democrats have added enough states and seats on the court to ensure them permanent rule?

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        • Avatarsgeffe

          They already have, Ronnie, by having learned how to game the elections.

          The same thing happened..almost..in 2016. The returns stopped coming in around 11:30pm, and I’m sure that they were trying to figure out how to manufacture votes in enough states, but there weren’t mechanisms in place for it yet. So the returns concluded, and Michigan put Trump over the top around 2:30am. The mistake wasn’t repeated this last year!

          So now, as a (University of) Michigan fan, I’m mourning the coming mediocrity of their football team (thanks to the pansywastes in Ann Arbor granting another five years to Har-blow) much like I’m mourning the end of America at the hands of the treasonous Democrats, both into perpetuity.

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      • Avatarstingray65

        How many times has Trump said things that the media said were lies and couldn’t possibly be true, that later turned out to be 100% accurate. Trump said Obama was spying on his campaign – media and Obama said he was crazy – well we know now that Trump was 100% accurate. Trump said the Steele Dossier was 100% fabricated and the media, Comey, and Obama officials denied it as they promoted the Russian collusion story, and it turned out the only Russian collusion was with the Hillary campaign. Trump said that Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc were effective treatments against Covid, and the media and Fauci said he was spreading dangerous misinformation, but turns out Trump was right again and it was media and Fauci afraid of losing big Pharma money because there was no money to be made on Hydroxychloroquine. Trump predicted a Covid vaccine by the end of 2020, and the media and Fauci said it was impossible and that Trump was making false claims to escape Covid scrutiny and blame so he would win re-election, and here we are with not one but two vaccines developed in record time. Trump also said that Biden was corrupt and was impeached for talking with the Ukraine about investigating bribery that the media and Pelosi and Schiff said is was all Russian disinformation, and now days after the election it turns out that Hunter’s hard-drive was 100% verified with information that confirms Biden corruption.

        I could go one with many more examples, but you should get the idea that Trump is also correct in describing the media as Fake News, and that is why half the country or more trust what Trump says far more than we trust the media, DOJ, or any other political hacks regarding claims about election fraud. Any American with eyes should question how an obviously senile senior citizen who couldn’t get 20 people to his rare campaign appearances could win more votes than any candidate in history, and it is reasonable to expect answers to questions involving dead voters, felon voters, unregistered voters, machines filled out ballots, precincts with more than 100% turnout, or how Trump vote totals when negative in swing states, or how election observers being thrown out in the middle of the night, and videos showing boxes of ballots arriving in vans or being pulled out from under tables when all the observers are gone. None of these things were addressed by any courts because as Jack said they used technicalities to avoid taking responsibility. If a real investigation disproves fraud claims and confirms the Biden vote tallies as legitimate, I am willing to accept the sad fact that 80+ million Americans were stupid enough to vote out the most unfairly treated President in US history, and the most successful in policy since Reagan for a corrupt, senile man with zero accomplishment besides re-election in more than 40 years of “public service”, and I will weep for the sad end to the United States of America.

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        • Avatarsgeffe

          Already dead, dude!

          The censors are coming even before the sham becomes official, and the demented fucking feckless fool and the 47th “president,” Commie-la, are coronated.”

          United States of America. B: July 4, 1776. D: January 6, 2021.

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    • AvatarCarmine

      I said that to a friend, no politicians ended up hanging from a lamppost with their entrails on the floor………so really nothing was accomplished……

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  7. AvatarRonnie Schreiber

    “To hate them is to love
    To harm them is to heal
    To kill them is to bring life.”

    Alex, what is a completely unselfaware analogy to George Orwells, “War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength”?

    It seems that the people who do best on Jeopardy are those with brains so filled with minutiae that there’s no room left for wisdom.

    Real Nazis killed my grandfather’s entire extended family except for one cousin who also came to America. Unlike Antifa cosplayers and poseurs like Chu my mother’s cousin Shmuel fought actual Nazis as a partisan in Poland. In his 90s now, Shmuel could still probably kick Chu’s fat ass up and down the street.

    My orthodox Jewish grandsons are far more safe hanging aroung folks like Ashli Babbitt and the Proud Boys than they’d be around Arthur Chu, Antifa, and BLM.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats elected a real live Jew hater to the United States Senate from Georgia.

    With this much gaslighting, pearl clutching and newspeak about a “riot” and “insurrection” that was less violent than most campus parties, let alone the actual rioting that took place in the name of BLM, just imagine what would happen if the tree of liberty was actually properly nourished.

    Oh, and how come we don’t know the name of the Capitol Police officer that murdered Babbitt? Okay, that wasn’t a serious question, we all know the answer.

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    • AvatarJohn C.

      What are Christian Americans to make of, having seen President Trump pardon senior Mr. Kushner, Jonathon Pollard, and the big defense department budget payoffs to Israel and new Israeli ally Arab North Sudan/Nubia, the Anti Defamation League demanding the removal of President Trump? Is this the official Jewish position?

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      • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

        Trump pardoned a lot more Jews than gentiles, and the ADL hasn’t represented the interests of Jews in two generations, but go ahead and ride your hobby horse.

        You’re more worried about keeping the riff-raff out and protecting your class status than you are about preserving our constitutional republic.

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        • AvatarJohn C.

          I wish you were correct Ronnie, the riff raff are all around us. Last night we witnessed. on Alex’s last night on Jeopardy, another Chinese in the mold of Arthur Chu, having long marched thru American institutions, shoot a weird Chink middle finger at dying Alex. Thankfully God intervened and that scum didn’t make it to final Jeopardy by being dollar negative. I hope he spends his $1,000 booby price on Chinese Fentanyl and overdoses.

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    • Avatarsgeffe

      My feeling is that the Capitol Police were likely told to stand down, no matter what, in order to provide cover for the narrative we’re seeing.

      It only took a couple bad actors on our side, and a couple of busses of Antifa cretins on George Soros’ dime, to strike the match that Trump may have laid down. I’ve not read the text of his speech, but I thought a couple excerpts have read “peacefully protest.” As I’ve read in several comments on various platforms this weekend (and I’ve spent too much time looking at this stuff and feeding my despair this weekend), that was more akin to the MLK March on Washington than a call for battle.

      So back to cars: have you ever seen a more effete excuse for a corporate logo in your life than the new one from gm?! 😂

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  8. AvatarRedlineblue

    Cancel, schmancel. We sound as snowflak as we accuse the other side of being. Sen. Hawley’s book will go out from Regnery instead of S&S, who cares. It’s especially agile of *the current 1A* to insist S&S publish This, while ensuring a baker doesn’t have to make a cake for That.
    The leftists are calling for more violent policing and conservatives want (certain-)states’ rights to be abridged, until such time as those states vote properly. Now I’ve seen everything.

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      • AvatarNewbie Jeff

        People like “Redlineblue” are completely unaware of ascendant authoritarianism until it’s too late. Most people are like that.

        That’s. Why. We’re. Here.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      Oh, I don’t care about Hawley’s book.

      I care about normal people who can’t get credit card processing for their small businesses, or who can’t get on an airplane.

      What was disingenuous about the BAKE THAT CAKE drama was that are dozens of bakeries who wanted that business. The point was to enforce uniformity, to make sure that the 1 in 100 cake shops that wanted to operate on their own principles were unable to do so.

      Conservatives have treated the Big Tech stuff like there are a dozen Facebooks, or two dozen Twitters, or a hundred Googles, when in fact there is just one of each. More critically, there are very few payment processors left. That’s where they are hitting people: telling them to “start their own X” and then making sure “their own X” can’t cash a check.

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      • AvatarRedlineblue

        I don’t think the state should be telling private enterprise what to do, *whether it’s publish a republican’s book or bake a democrat a cake*. It’s much too simple a position for today’s nuanced politics, I know.
        Seriously: What’s the difference? S&S has no power to “prevent” Hawley’s speech. Nor have they any obligation to amplify it. Does a publisher have freedom of association, or do they not? The free market, (aka Regnery Publishing) can and will set a value to Sen. Hawley’s speech. This is, or used to be, a commonplace conservative position.

        I hold the GOP’s present-day hypocrisy in precisely the same contempt I used to reserve for the left’s gauzy, greedy fables. The states-rights party wants the U.S. Congress to ignore the Constitution’s strictures on its near-zero role in presidential elections, so as to prevent the inconvenient electoral outcomes **certified by those states**?

        Cite Lewis Carroll, not Thomas Jefferson.

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        • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

          I don’t think the state should be telling private enterprise what to do, *whether it’s publish a republican’s book or bake a democrat a cake*. It’s much too simple a position for today’s nuanced politics, I know.

          You sound like the coach of the Washington Generals. We all know that only some bakers will be forced to make some cakes and only some books won’t be published. You must be the kind of person who finds 100% percent of the pricing errors favoring the store and is amazed at the coincidence.

          That horse left the stable with the 1964 Civil Rights act that said trespassed all over the property rights of providers of public accommodations and sellers of real estate. If the state can’t tell a baker that they have to bake a cake for a gay wedding, can the state tell that same baker that they have to serve a black person?

          The problem is that the free market is not free because the tech giants have far more power over the flow of information and goods than 19th century robber barons ever did. What’s Regnery going to do if the tech giants threaten the companies in their supply chain? Sure, Regnery can publish the book, but good luck being able to publicize it on the web, or even buy paper. You think Amazon and Google don’t have that power now?

          Let’s be real, if the situation was reversed, this probably wouldn’t have even made it to the Supreme Court. Democratic legislators in the swing states would have used their black letter constitutional authority to appoint electors for Biden. If it did make it to SCOTUS, the leftist justices would jump over each other to create standing. Laches, they don’t need your stinkin’ laches.

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          • AvatarRedlineblue

            (Jake Blues voice) Amazon! Google! The 1964 Civil Rights Act! The conditional tense! The Harlem Globetrotters! It wasn’t a polarizing candidate and shitty campaign strategy’s fault, I swear to God!

            So *Joe Biden* stole 7M votes. In 50 states, each w different rules, boards, and affiliations to circumvent. From his basement. Without getting caught enough for Bob Barr to make hay of it.
            Yet this remarkably adept and disciplined criminal enterprise lost seats in the house, and chose to leave both GA senate seats on the table.

            Sweet Georgia Brown, those guys are crafty!

          • Avatarstingray65

            So it isn’t suspicious at all that Biden supposedly won the most votes in US history while at the same time winning fewer counties than any winner in history, including only 1 of the 19 bellwether counties that have picked every winner since 1980. Or that his dead corpse couldn’t attract flies to his campaign events, and that Republicans had far more newly registered voters than Democrats in all the swing states, yet somehow he got record turnout (including more than 100% turnout in several key precincts)? Or that his running mate was so unpopular she dropped out before the first primary and had no coat-tails outside her native California that Biden was going to win anyway, and even with his POC VP he attracted smaller black and Hispanic percentages than any winning Democrat in the last 50 years, yet somehow he got way more overall votes than Obama? Or the fact that in absolutely every statistical aberration and “human” error found in the analysis of the voting patterns, 0.00% went in Trump’s favor? None of those things could possibly be indicators of fraud?

            But I’m going to guess you do believe that $50,000 worth of Russian Facebook ads in 2016 were what caused Trump to win over Hillary.

  9. Avatarhank chinaski

    The banhammers have been pounding left and right. Well, just right, lol. Mozilla itself thinks bad think should be deplatformed. Goodbye Firefox, hello Brave.

    I’ve perused a few blogs written by vets and more than a few (at least say that they) relish the thought of finally going kinetic. We do have a full generation of them after all, many well trained in, um, insurrection. The forever wars are older than some of them. I imagine that having one of their own murdered and their popular (at least until he threw them under the bus) CiC unpersoned will dampen recruitment and reups. Willie Brown’s side piece will have to reinstitute the draft when she decides to invade Iran or restart the cold war with the imaginary USSR.

    Last I’ve read, the feds sent 10 suvs to arrest the boomer who had the audacity to sit in Nancy’s chair. The father of five who posed with her podium for a gag photo has also been taken to be made an example of. No fires. The statues still stand.

    Sidney Powell is being sued by Dominion for 1.3 Beeeellion dollars.

    As if ACAB wasn’t bad enough, I don’t see ‘Backing the Blue’ being what it was.

    All for a president that was pretty good at being a wiseass but was otherwise not much to the right of (Bill) Clinton.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      The problem with “going kinetic” is that it’s a privilege reserved for those with nothing left to lose.

      If you look at the Antifa mugshots, it because apparent that these are people with NOTHING — no active family, no job, no children, no career, no social groups, no home, no property. They’re a disposable street army, like the Joker opening the asylums in “The Dark Knight”.

      Your “let’s go kinetic” dudes all have three children and a home and a Dodge Charger and all sorts of things that will eventually be taken away from them but won’t be taken from them all at once. The frogs will be boiled until their own kids think they are Nazis and they can’t get a gallon of gasoline and they can’t communicate with anyone, at which point they’ll be gulag-ed one at a time in secrecy.

      I personally don’t own anything more dangerous than an Airsoft gun but on the day I can’t feed my son, all bets are off.

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      • AvatarDirty Dingus McGee

        “The problem with “going kinetic” is that it’s a privilege reserved for those with nothing left to lose.”

        The way things are going, that will be anyone who is less “woke” than Pelosi. Cancel culture being the new norm, they want EVERYONE on their knees kissing the boot of TPTB. The time will come soon I suspect when even a column such as this will be deemed “bad speak” and could cost you your ability to support your family. The majority will restrict their comments, and support, for fear of being added to that list of undesirables. At that time, they have joined forces with the overlords who know whats best for you.

        I have been a 20 year member of a group that was declared as “undesirable” some 50 years ago. I have had numerous “interviews” from different alphabet agency folks, an uncountable number of random stops by local or state law enforcement, have had my phone tapped on 3 occasions that I know of and in general live under a microscope. Before we started our company, on at least 3 occasions it cost me employment in my chosen field.The way things are going, and with my advancing age (on my 64th trip around the sun), I will be retiring from our business this year. The way things are going, I’ll likely soon be in the group that has nothing left to lose.

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      • Avatarstingray65

        Jack I have to disagree. The miracle of the American Revolution was that it was led by the wealthiest and smartest people in the 13 colonies who had everything to lose by going against King George. The unfortunate change is that today the wealthiest and smartest people in the US are almost entirely on the side of King Biden and the regulatory state, and the Biden and the regulatory state are so far smart enough to realize that they will retain that support as long as long as regulatory power is used to help them maintain their profitable monopolies and tax policy attacks high income rather than high wealth.

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      • Avatarhank chinaski

        The Uniparty seems intent on making sure the Deplorables don’t have anything to lose, and sooner rather than later if they can get away with it. The rhetoric for the last two days suggests that they’re done with the slow frog boil.

        Those caught in the Capitol trap will be radioactive, not having the implicit approval and support of Kneeling Nancy, the Bail Project, friendly DAs and AGs, et. al that the Joker’s army has.
        These men won’t be able to feed their families after the feds are done with them.

        A real leader of men would have had the guts to march in with them, security detail or no. Recall images of Bolsonaro campaigning from the hospital after getting shivved in the guts.

        I have a touch sympathy for the low level LEOs, but only that. They’ve been ordered to either stand down or endure beatings all summer, and all that stored energy will now be directed at us. So now they’ve shot an unarmed woman. A veteran no less. What will they name this ‘Furgoson Effect’? The smart ones are high tailing it from the hoods to the cushy suburbs (leaving behind who exactly, one might ask). Our county PD has had record recruitment.

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      • AvatarIce Age

        This is the main design flaw in the United States of America: it’s far too reliant on the personal virtue and civic-mindedness of men and women who have to get up and go to work in the morning.

        It’s been my experience that too many people think that because they have kids and a mortgage, they can’t afford the “luxury” of perspective, and that freedom is a mostly academic concern compared to little Kayden’s ADHD diagnosis.

        I’ve long thought that the problem with “the price of liberty is eternal vigilance” is that it forces the common man to fight a war on two fronts. Not only does he have to make a living and keep a civilization running, he has to fight a neverending battle to keep the government honest. That’s frankly too much to ask of the common man.

        But even though the freedom of the common man is too important to be left in the care and feeding of the common man, he deserves freedom anyway, by virtue of his humanity.

        So my long-term solution is this: Next time liberty-loving human beings start another Last, Best Hope For Mankind-type country, let’s learn from the American Experiment and not make the mistake of allowing The State the power to make laws.

        Found the new country, issue it a set of just and proper laws – malum in se stuff – and give it the powers of enforcement and interpretation over those laws.

        But no legislature. We’ve tried that. It always ends in unnecessary warfare and bloodshed eventually.

        Paradise is not “just one more regulation away,” but the gulag is.

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    • AvatarRedlineblue

      >>Last I’ve read, the feds sent 10 suvs to arrest the boomer who had the audacity to sit in Nancy’s chair.

      Before he did that, he published a willingness to die a violent death for his cause. That’s 3 SUVs right there.

      Also, a Capitol Police officer was killed (by being pepper sprayed at point-blank range, then having a chemical fire extinguisher discharged in his face at point-blank range, and then being struck repeatedly with the canister). Is he who you meant by ‘having one of their own murdered’?

      Again: the left is screaming for more violent policing and the (new) right thinks busting into Federal buildings to threaten officials who wont do their bidding, killing a cop along the way, is either a fucking lark or democracy in action. It’s nuts.

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  10. AvatarQ

    Great piece. Nothing worthwhile to add, but one comment on Chu.

    Chu is a man who never had the privilege to be humbled. Whether in sports, or socked in the nose by someone with no realistic recourse. His parents probably never told him “no,” and he likely never roughhoused as a child. Although he probably is “elite” I feel sorry for him.

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  11. AvatarWidgetsltd

    I’m going to say the same thing here that I said in our exchange today on IG: Why can’t we agree that burning down a police station and storming the Capitol while the Congress is counting the electoral college ballots are BOTH bad things? I’m not happy about Ashli Babbit’s death. I would assume that very few people are. But ask yourself this: If Ashli Babbit were guarding a position (while on duty in the Air Force), and that position was in clear and imminent danger of being overrun by a large group of aggressors, would she have shot?

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      That’s where it gets sticky. If I really thought cops were killing Black people as a deliberate matter of policy, I’d send Antifa a check for their next police station burning. If the election really was stolen, this wasn’t a strong enough response. If a fetus really can feel pain and experience human emotions, there is no action too extreme in their defense.

      You see my fundamental naivete here. I’m approaching these things with sincerity, but most people just want to score points for their team.

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      • AvatarKrishna Karanam

        I believe you.

        Just wanted to point out that getting a head shot at a paper target that’s 5 feet away in a range is still not easy. It’s very easy to miss.

        Now let’s factor in the chaos and the lady climbing through. I’d guess it’d make it much much harder.

        What was the guy supposed to do? If you were the cop, wouldn’t you assume that at least someone was armed and willing to retaliate?

        I mean they did storm the bldg. This was not some chance encounter on the street.

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        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          My son can reliably headshot a steel silhouette at 25 yards, while I’m yelling at him and waving in his peripheral vision.

          He’s eleven years old.

          I can do it at fifty yards.

          I assume these cops have better training than I do 🙂

          I would also expect that they are trained in conflict resolution and de-escalation, not in the immediate shooting of unarmed women. Otherwise you could just put any yahoo with a pistol in there and tell them to SHOOT ‘EM ALL, haha…

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          • AvatarRedlineblue

            What is the meaning of “unarmed”, as applied to an armed forces veteran in that time and place and company? How many people without guns does it take to make a danger?

            Outside was a great time for “conflict resolution” (or for clubbing a Really mild-mannered cop whose lungs were collapsing, with a fire extinguisher; take your pick). But once you make an illegal entry to the Capitol, it gets more dangerous, especially if Congress is in session. This is in no sense a secret; Trying to breach the chamber door while Congress is in session is an extremely dangerous thing to do.

            USCP could have stacked protesters up like cordwood. They didn’t. Dully [sic] elected members of the House and Senate could have been hurt or killed. They weren’t. But the one shared narrative emerging from the last year is “Can emerging as you believe the cops did that? To US??”

            To quote from The Big Red One, “Why not? You somethin’ special?”

          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            Historically there is no death penalty for interrupting Congress. It’s been done again and again. As I wrote in the head story, we don’t even hand out the death penalty for shooting Congressmen. A woman who tried to bomb the Capitol in 1982 or thereabouts is now the billionaire director of Black Lives Matter. Just for perspective.

            In a way I think you can argue for shooting looters of a Target before you can argue for injuring a Capitol protestor. The security of private property is a much more fundamental part of our society than, say, the sanctity of Nancy Pelosi’s desk would be.

    • Avatarstingray65

      Is burning down and looting several police stations/court houses/private businesses/public housing apartment buildings and killing several cops in the process all to avenge the drug overdose in police hands of a life-long criminal or drug dealing EMR employee used as a barrier by her gun shooting boyfriend the equivalent of entering the Capital to protest against very probable vote fraud and breaking a few windows? One obviously unarmed veteran was killed at point blank range entering the “people’s house” and one cop died from injuries sustained in the protest, and Congressional “vote counting” was delayed by about 3 hours. In contrast, Minneapolis and Portland are still burned out today and several thousand additional black lives have been lost during 2020 from rising crime and murder in cities where the “racist” police forces have been defunded and demoralized because Black Lives Matter? Are these causes and “peaceful” protests equivalent and equally bad?

      Does anyone understand that 500,000+ people were gathered in Washington on Jan 6 to protest an unfair and fraudulent election, and they could have easily burned down the entire US government and hung Pelosi, Schumer, Pence, McConnell and all the rest from light posts all over the city if they had wanted to do so. That a few hundred unmasked idiots from that huge crowd broke in or were let in to the Capital and instead of starting a revolution took selfies should either be seen as comedy or a warning shot.

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      • AvatarFred Lee

        Why are you intentionally mis-representing facts?

        * George Floyd did not die of a drug overdose, he died of a police officer kneeling on his neck for nearly 8 minutes. To your later point, he was obviously unarmed and represented no threat to the police officer.

        * Whether Breonna Taylor was a drug-dealer is immaterial to the behavior of officers when they shot her.

        * I was not there, and I suspect you were not either, but how do you know that Ashli Babbitt was “obviously unarmed”?

        * There is no evidence of a fraudulent or unfair election. For those not paying attention, this has been confirmed by Republican Governors, Secretaries of State. Lawsuits to this effect have been heard by judges appointed by both parties, including many Trump appointees. It didn’t happen. You have been lied to. Over and over. You have chosen to believe those lies.

        * Portland is not “burned out”. I don’t know where you live. I live 20 miles West of Portland. I go there every few weeks. I don’t like cities in general, but there’s nothing “burned out” about Portland. There are about 2 city blocks where protests occurred, and there remain some fences erected in that area.

        Pro-tip: Try sticking to the truth. It’s a lot easier to keep your story straight. This should be obvious from watching the tortured machinations of election conspiracy theorists over the last two months.

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    • AvatarBooty_Toucher

      Widgetsltd, I agree with you (that both examples are bad things; that very few people are happy about Babbit’s death). I think most people in the US agree with you, including folks who identify as democrats.

      I see at least three problems – 1) the extreme fringe voices of either side (left or right) get amplified; 2) guys like Chu have relative impunity to make statements in public forums about conservatives, like the example presented here; and 3) on the flip side, you can’t offer one iota of public criticism towards people of color or their causes. This makes me sympathetic to voices like Jack’s, even if disagree with a lot of his points.

      At least five deaths have been attributed to this “storming of the capital,” and there has been expensive destruction of property. It wasn’t a benign event. Just like you can’t say that BLM marches that destroyed property and lead to death/injury were entirely “peaceful.” I do think that protesting to fight racism is a more worthy agenda (other BLM aspects I definitely don’t agree with) than protesting that an election was stolen without an iota of evidence.

      I honor the right of ANY group to express their viewpoints publicly, whether via protest or social media (even if they’re completely wrong and batshit crazy). I also think that most protesters ARE peaceful and within their rights (whether at the capital this week, or at BLM protests that turned violent). To me, it does become problematic when either side uses social media to incense violence or use protests to cause bodily or physical harm. And that’s precisely what happened at the capital this week.

      I don’t support silencing the right or left on social media, even their lunatic fringes, but social media does need to get a grip on violent organizing. That’ll be a hard job.

      I’m sure it’s unpopular here, but if it can be proven that Donald Trump was responsible for inciting violence and destruction (and there is a definite non-zero chance that it can), he deserves to be impeached. I’d say the same for any liberal.

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      • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

        The ruckus at the Capitol started (by organized groups it appears) well before President Trump finished his remarks and in any case nothing he said qualifies as incitement under any Brandenburg v Ohio.

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  12. AvatarJohn C.

    On the penetration of the People’s House. It would have been nice if the protest had been lead by again bow tied Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, and say 50 Congressmen who understood the steal. We are not going to get anywhere with weird bitter boomers and someone calling himself “Baked Alaska” who take selfies instead of sit down on livestream and sing old patriotic songs. No leaders are really limiting us.

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    • AvatarFred Lee

      There aren’t 50 congressmen who “understand” the steal.

      Congressmen and women, all of them, understand that there was no “steal”. They also understand that appealing to the worst instincts of their constituents is the best way to get re-elected.

      This isn’t exclusive to the right, but at this moment in time the GOP has chosen to exploit their members in an extraordinarily cynical and dangerous attempt. Populism on the left is also exploitative (Bernie Sanders is smart and experienced enough to know that half the shit he pedals is BS).

      But in this moment, today, only crazies from the right have attempted to literally overthrow the government. And let’s not forget it’s not the first time. It was only a few months ago that similar crazies plotted to kill Michigan’s governor. It feels like a lifetime ago, but President Trump’s non-reaction spoke volumes to those who were listening.

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      • AvatarJohn C.

        You have a lot more faith in middle of the night ballot dumps in Democratic machine cities of paperwork included? absentee ballots from the ghetto than I do.

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  13. AvatarJohn C.

    On the villain of Jack’s Hagerty story, the current guy driving the 964/965 Turbo, where are we to draw the line on who are the modern NPC characters behind the wheel? I personally think the 964 saved the 911 by preventing it turning into a German Morgan. Surely a driver of a manual 4 speed turbo meets anybody’s definition of a serious Porsche driver. Think instead of a current 2 door 911/928 built off a Panamera and remember the 4 door mock ups of sedan 928s.

    Ferruccio Lamborghini sold his last shares the year the Countach came out, though it would have been useful for the later corporate owners to have a token stake by namesakes .Maybe he understood, what he was going for was lost.

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  14. AvatarShortest Circuit

    Let’s just add that the real heroes are the tech bros who, displaying a great deal of courage, no-platformed a sitting president that had 2 weeks left in office; his successor did what I imagine he will do for the next 4 years: sat on the sidelines doing nothing. Parler, when it was announced that DJT will be using it for the time remaining, was in no time kicked from both Google and Apple’s Stores. Let’s hope the owner will prevail, he did state that the platform is built “down to the metal” and not dependent on the Amazon Cloud’s proprietary services.
    You can exist outside the bubble, just look at Laura Loomer, she was no-platformed back in 2017 (FB, IG, Uber, her bank) and she’s been fairly consistent in warning people that the real life version of the Sandra Bullock’s ’95 movie is more real than most care to admit.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      The Left are tearing down the statues and renaming institutions commemorating our past, and totally in charge of the curriculum taught to our young people in schools and universities, and now social media companies are blocking all Conservative thought, opinion and fact from getting exposure. Most historic documents and current histories are now scanned and stored in the “cloud” – how long before those documents and histories start to mysteriously change to fit Leftist narratives? 2nd amendment? – I’m sorry we can’t find that page please try again. Didn’t George Orwell have something to say about this? George Orwell? – I’m sorry that page no longer exists.

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      • AvatargbKing

        I’ve already deleted my accounts with Facebook, Netflix, and Amazon Music (Qobuz is wonderful by the way. Thanks John Marks!). This morning, since my Prime subscription hasn’t run out yet, I ordered as my last purchase from them hard bound copies of 1984, Animal Farm, and Brave New World.

        While I realize in the grand scheme of things the symbolism of this means nothing and it’s just 50 more bucks in the hands of the enemy it made me feel better.

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        • AvatarShortest Circuit

          Amazon has been low-key doing it for years now. Kindle books disappeared without explanation or refund. In 2009 they famously (?) dropped Animal Farm. Where I live, it’s still not offered as an e-book, but you can get the hardcover or the audiobook.

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          • AvatarPhlipski

            Where do you live? I live in Austin, TX and I just searched Animal Farm on amazon.com and found a kindle copy for $6.49 to be delivered February 2. The audio book, hard and soft backs are all available to me now. Now I do find it odd that the digital kindle copy takes 3 weeks but the others take 2 days for delivery.

          • AvatarFred Lee

            Um, this wasn’t some low-key censorship attempt by Amazon. What are you going on about? The publisher that had been selling hte book did not have the rights to sell it. Private property, you know, something that ought to be cherished and protected.

  15. Avatarstingray65

    I haven’t seen any coverage in the media for some reason, but was Washington DC boarded up in anticipation of violent riots from the Jan 6 Trump rally? Did plywood cover all business windows, and store owners stand in the streets as they did on Nov. 3 when it looked like Trump would win? If not, why haven’t we seen any pictures of broken windows, and merchandize being taken out to waiting vans, and burned out police cars from the Jan 6 protests – why is the media covering up all the carnage?

    The only thing I have seen is on the Gateway Pundit that said stands were taken down for inauguration parade because officials were concerned that Trump supporters would outnumber Biden supporters and boo the new president.

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    • AvatarKevin Jaeger

      No, DC was not boarded up the way the city was in November. No widespread looting or arson was expected from the MAGA crowd and none occurred.

      By the standards of the rioting that has been happening for most of the past year this was a very small and isolated event. The good news is the people who assaulted and killed the police officer will certainly be prosecuted in this case, unlike the BLM/Antifa people, who are routinely released en masse without charges.

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      • AvatarFred Lee

        Perhaps you’re not aware. Portland protestors were rounded up and arrested en masse, frequently with no evidence of wrong-doing aside from being present at a protest. Nearly 10% of those cases are still being prosecuted. I’m not aware of any instances of protestors in Portland killing police officers or breaching federal buildings. That did not prevent many on these very pages who are now arguing that an armed insurrection is NBD from proposing very, shall we say, HARSH repercussions against the Portland protestors.

        In contrast, the MAGA rocket scientists who killed a police officer and breached the capitol building were ready for action with weapons and restraints. Apples and oranges, my friend. Apples and oranges.

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        • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

          I’m not aware of any instances of protestors in Portland killing police officers or breaching federal buildings

          Not for lack of trying.

          Are you okay with the tech lords’ suppression of free speech? Or are you fine with fascist totalitarianism when you see your side as benefiting from it?

          If you’re going to use the private property argument, how are the tech giants different from Woolworth’s lunch counter? Is Facebook not a place of public accommodation? That’s putting aside a persuasive argument that due to Section 230 exemptions and jawboning by politicians the tech giants are indeed the equivalent of being state actors.

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    • AvatarKevin Jaeger

      Everyone should remember that if Trump had eked out an electoral college win last November there was going to be a full on Color Revolution unleashed. The planned riots were going to be much, much worse and much more widespread than the very minor event where actual violence was limited to a couple of hallways in the Capitol and was probably no more than a few dozen real instigators.

      If Trump had won the plan was to unleash unrest to make the country instantly ungovernable. That’s why DC and many other cities were boarded up in November.

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      • AvatarFred Lee

        Now you’re just making stuff up. Tension was high from both sides. Stores didn’t board up over fear from lefties, they boarded up over fear from extremists on both sides.

        Anyway, as it turns out Trump lost in a legitimate landslide, both popular vote and electoral college, and the right is planning armed protests in all 50 states. I assure you stores will be boarding up, and not out of fear of lefties.

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  16. AvatarRonnie Schreiber

    Google, Facebook, and Twitter exist mostly in the digital realm and their server farms are secure locations that don’t need much in the way of human support.

    Amazon, which just deplatformed Parler, is a different beast. Bezos wealth depends on delivering the goods, unlike the other tech lords, he can indeed be hit in the pocketbooks.

    Just a few months ago, Trump supporters were holding parades miles long, and anti-lockdown protesters were causing gridlock in more than a few places.

    How many cars do you think it would take to blockade Amazon distribution centers?

    #gridlockAmazonforfreespeech

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Will Biden grant social media allies exemptions from diesel emission standards so they can fire up their big generators to keep their servers running when the Green New Deal takes down reliable grid power? It really would be a shame if something bad were to happen to the grid connections with those server farms.

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      • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

        It really would be a shame if something bad were to happen to the grid connections with those server farms.

        Social media has facilitated Antifa, they use it to organize their actions. I agree that it would be a real shame if social media were to suffer the kind of direct action Antifa likes. Do they think only anachists and leftists can monkeywrench?

        How many transformers on how many utitlity poles provide electricity to a typical server farm? It can’t be that many and wooden utitlity poles can be felled with a common chainsaw.

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        • AvatarDirty Dingus McGee

          Steel core 7.62mm round into a large transformer has the same result, with a much larger time needed to replace it.

          Allegedly.

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          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            Well, gosh, Norinco only brought 100 million plus rounds of that into the country before they got clamped, so what are the chances of that?

      • AvatarIce Age

        One IS given to wonder just how strong a foundation modern electronics-based technology sits on. It’s like the human body – remarkably strong and resilient.

        But if you apply a small amount of force in just the right spot….

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  17. AvatarCompaq Deskpro

    The law is clear, peaceful protesting is protected, vandalism is not. Vandals can get shot by the nearest responsible gun holder (such as a cop), regardless of what they look like or why they are there.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      If the law is so clear, how many antifa/BLM protesters throwing bricks and shooting industrial fireworks at police protecting public buildings from vandals have been shot or even arrested and charged? How many people vandalizing statues of Robert E. Lee, U.S. Grant, and Abe Lincoln have been shot or even arrested and charged? Why was Kyle Rittenhouse charged with murder when all he was doing was protecting property from looters and arsonists who were personally attacking him? Why were the McCloskey’s charged with pointing guns (one inoperable) at violent armed trespassers who broke down their gate and threatened their lives and home? Besides a couple of broken windows in the capital, what vandalism actually occurred on Jan 6 – besides, isn’t it only property that is insured anyway? Laws are only worthy of the name when they are enforced fairly, and lady justice is very selectively blind these days.

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      • AvatarKevin Jaegfer

        While the damage to the building was very minor we shouldn’t dismiss the real and violent assaults on the police officers that were protecting the building. Several were injured and one died.

        Those people absolutely should be identified and prosecuted.

        The crowd that followed was mostly harmless, did little damage and left peacefully when asked.

        But the initial assault was indeed violent, should be condemned and they should be prosecuted.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          I will not dispute that the people involved in killing or injuring any police officer protecting the Capital should be prosecuted and punished. I also believe the window breakers should be punished. But what do you think will happen if the investigators should find that the most serious instigators or “terrorists” are BLM/antifa types with long social media histories of Trump Derangement or ties to George Soros? Do you think we will still see the same thirst for justice from Nancy, Chuck, and the FBI? I think we already have the answer to that question because BLM activist John Sullivan was caught inside the Capital and was released without charges and then got interviewed by CNN.

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          • AvatarFred Lee

            This investigation has been done. There is no evidence that BLM or “Antifa” was involved in any way.

            Criminy, friend, these idiots posted their transgressions right on their twitters and facebooks. It’s not hard to figure out who they are. They are actively being identified and brought to justice. Get your head out of the conspiracy theory butt long enough to look around, you’re suffocating.

      • Avatarphlipski

        That McCloskey dude is nuts. He sued his own father for not giving him a piece of his grand dads land based upon a supposed contract he was given in the form of a birthday card when he was 20 years old! He has a history of being the worst litigious neighbor anyone could have the poor fortune of moving next too, so I’m not so sure I’d like to be caught defending that asshat.

        In Washington DC on June 1 – 289 people were arrested due to involvement of the George Floyd protests.
        In Kenosha 165 people were arrested.

        I just spent 5 minutes googling and found those numbers from multiple sources. You can use google too!

        I don’t understand your weird obsession with southern confederate statues. Those guys were traitors who wanted to leave the union to protect their ability to be racists slave holders. I don’t understand anyone wanting to celebrate them. It’d be like Germans demanding to leave statues of Hitler up, or Iraqi’s demanding to protect statues of Saddam.

        And hypothetically speaking even if nobody was arrested or charged over these incidents you stated – does that then make it OK for folks to go and riot and break into the Capitol? Two wrongs make a right?

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        • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

          He has a history of being the worst litigious neighbor anyone could have the poor fortune of moving next too, so I’m not so sure I’d like to be caught defending that asshat.

          Ernesto Miranda was a serial rapist, but his case ensures your right to remain silent. Clarence Gideon was a career criminal and petty thief, but his case ensures your right to an attorney if charged by the state with a crime.

          Even litigious folks with a history of family conflicts have the right to defend their lives and their property.

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    • Avatarcarrya1911

      The standards set by the US Supreme Court in Tenessee v. Garner and Graham v. Connor for the use of lethal force don’t agree with the assessment that vandals can be engaged with lethal force.

      To properly use lethal force the officer pressing the trigger must have an objectively reasonable belief that the person he/she shot had the Ability to cause death or serious bodily harm, had the opportunity to bring that ability to bear, manifested the intent to cause death or serious bodily harm, that said threat of death or serious bodily harm was imminent, and that the officer had no reasonable alternative available other than the use of force.

      This very clear standard, set forth in USSC rulings and taught in police academies at the federal, state, and local levels doesn’t mention anything about vandalism.

      It helps to actually know things before you argue about them.

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      • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

        I think most people without first-hand legal experience would be ASTONISHED all the things that people can do to someone or something that do not justify shooting them in the eyes of the court. Trust me on this…

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  18. AvatarNewbie Jeff

    “Prior to this week, I had thought that most, if not all, of the people who had stood up and spoken out about the various police killings in the past year or so were motivated by genuine concerns about American society”

    Some of us have been screaming the opposite from our rooftops for years. Some of us have always known… if BLM cared about black lives, they’d be marching through Chicago’s south side. The American Left is now, and has always been, about power. Their banners of “equity” and “justice” are the marketing equivalent of Google’s “Don’t be evil”. An ideology that fundamentally operates in hypocrisy is going to eventually codify hypocrisy where it has control. That’s why American society has become the dystopian nightmare that some of us have been warning about for years… Really, who here is surprised that the party-news-social media complex has decided which animals are more equal than others?

    In the vein of Ronnie’s excellent example of Orwellian themes:

    “Anti-racism is the righteous racism”

    “Tolerance is the righteous apartheid”

    “Love is the righteous hatred”

    Welcome to Airstrip One. For those of you who have “something to lose”, I would suggest you entertain a few more points: 1) the US is not the country you thought it was, not anymore. That’s just reality. 2) The American Left has complete control now… they just un-personed the only major roadblock, and will throw the remnants of his political movement into the memory hole. 3) Does anyone really think this will go anywhere other than kinetic?

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Kinetics is why the Left is so intent on “common sense” gun control to get guns out of the hands of Constitution supporting citizens and patriotic Americans who consistently vote the wrong way. It is much easier to control and if necessary exterminate unarmed “enemies of the people”, just ask the Jews in Nazi controlled parts of Europe during WWII.

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      • AvatarNewbie Jeff

        “Kinetics is why the Left is so intent on “common sense” gun control”

        Bingo. And while some of us have been warning – for years – about the dystopia that is now here, some of us have also been preparing – for years – for it.

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        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          Here’s the problem in a nutshell: The militant Left has a twenty-year plan. They know perfectly well that, for example, putting a one-dollar tax on every round of ammunition won’t stop a mass shooter; if you’re going to spend what it takes to kill fifty people, the $50 ammo tax is the least of your worries.

          Rather, they want to cripple the culture of fathers teaching sons and daughters to shoot and to rely on their own methods of protection, both against criminals and against the government. They want to make sure today’s ten-year-olds never learn to shoot, because it’s too expensive. Once the guns go in the ground, they’ll never come back up.

          The most honest voices, like Moynihan, have made it plain for a long time that they intend to make gun ownership as uncool as smoking or littering. At that point it won’t matter if you have fifty AR-15s, a thousand magazines, and fifty thousand rounds of SS109 in sealed tubes buried under a basement somewhere in rural Ohio like, uh, some people I know; nobody will be willing to use them.

          That being said, the most intelligent revolutionaries will be aware that you could almost win this thing without firing a single shot. The “enemy” is cooped up in rabbit warrens, dependent on unimaginable quantities of food, clean water, trash removal, and functioning sewers. The British showed us a long time ago how easy it would be to incapacitate Washington DC or New York City. Same goes for San Francisco. Pop the bridges, fill the south exits with IEDs, let the rioting and panic feed on itself.

          This is not to say that I endorse or believe any of this, but the fact is that the Left has worked tirelessly to make sure there are millions of people across every major city in America who have been thoroughly educated in the politics of resentment and immediate violence. Remember the part in “Gangs Of New York” where the rioters break into the Schermerhorn home? If the power went off, and people didn’t think it would come back on, that’s Day Three on both coasts. Los Angeles doesn’t have the natural barriers, but there is the minor problem of having to “escape from L.A.” knowing that everyone around you for a hundred miles wouldn’t hesitate before capping your ass.

          Kurt Schlichter’s books in the “People’s Republic” series are fairly prophetic, with one major exception: there won’t be a split. We will just have “PR” conditions everywhere in America that the Uniparty cares about enforcing them.

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  19. AvatarWidgetsltd

    Reading these comments has brought insight. This stuff is like objective reality seen through a funhouse mirror. You guys are nuts.

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    • AvatarNewbie Jeff

      “You guys are nuts”

      I mean, when you’ve made such an effective case, how can anyone disagree?

      Trust me when I say I’ve questioned my own sanity over how to process and respond to these events. I’m not hiding away from criticism or opposing thought… if anything, I read too much opposing thought and it makes me a cynical bastard.

      But it really comes down to this: Democrats did virtually nothing for months while insurrection was underway in major American cities. Partisans attacked and laid seige to federal government property and civil authority. Democrats called it “peaceful protest”. They did not even mention it during their convention. Criminals, looters, and rioters essentially suffered no consequences… at least not from the law.

      NOW all of a sudden the exact same thing happens, but it’s the ebemies of the Democratic party. NOW it’s an insurrection, not a peaceful protest. NOW we needed more police. NOW we apply context to an unarmed American citizen shot and killed by police. NOW the law is looking to deliver consequences.

      I’m pretty I’m not “nuts”.

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      • AvatarWidgetsltd

        This belief in pervasive election fraud, devoid of evidence: nuts. The notion that supposed patriots should surge into the Capitol and convince (with weapons in hand) legislators to throw out the ballots from an election that was certified by the 50 states: nuts. The notion that it was perfectly fine for the President of the United States to set these people on this mission: nuts. If I was expected to believe in 2016 that Trump won the election (because of the structure of the electoral college, despite losing the popular vote by millions), then Trump supporters should understand that he LOST the 2020 election, both in the electoral college and by over 7 million in the popular vote. Understand this: your guy lost. Fighting this is to fight against the foundations of our great nation.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          Patriots surging into the Capital with weapons in hand? Do you mean iPhones in hand? Have your actually read the transcript of Trump’s speech? I dare you to show me where he says anything about violence or breaking into the Capital. As for Trump’s 2016 win that you were expected to believe just because he won via the Constitutionally mandated electoral college, do you remember the huge and violent protests that the Leftists had in the streets of Washington DC on inauguration day and in the days following with burning police cars, broken shop windows, defaced public buildings? Do you know that the Democrats in Congress have done the exact same questioning of the electoral college results to every winning Republican president since Reagan in 1984, but unlike the Democrats you won’t find any video of Republicans calling for Democrats to resign or calling them traitors for questioning the results.

          But now we are a great nation? Did Biden’s supposed election somehow change our “racist” history going back to 1619, and the systemic racism of the Minneapolis police department and several other departments in Democrat run cities?

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          • AvatarWidgetsltd

            Well, heck. The crowd in DC sure seemed to think that Trump was imploring them to march over to the Capitol to persuade the congress to change its views on the election. The crowd did exactly that, immediately after the speech. To think otherwise is to be willingly naive about the type of dog-whistle communication often employed by Trump. The crowd heard the message, loud and clear.

          • Avatarstingray65

            So you are going with the dog whistle defense when you got nothing substantive to argue? Funny how only a few hundred iPhone brandishing members of the 500,000+ crowd heard that whistle, but nearly everyone in the media and the Democrat side heard it.

          • AvatarFred Lee

            Please show me a comparable example of democrats challenging the legitimacy of an election. I suppose one could argue Stacy Abrams, but that’s a state office, different case.

            You are imagining a pattern that does not exist. Why are you lying?

        • AvatarNewbie Jeff

          Did you think it was “nuts” when the Democratic party, the vast majority of the Beltway bureaucracy, and the entire news media declared the 2016 election to be “compromised” and that Trump was “illegitimate”? For over 2 years, the Democrats and Trump’s political enemies sowed mistrust in the election process, questioned the integrity of our democracy, and systematically undermined the ability of the elected president to govern… Oh, and by way, none of that whole “Russia collusion” thing ever happened, but we sure looked for it, didn’t we?

          …and now somnambulant sheep like yourself declare any doubt about the election process “nuts”, despite no investigation of even a fraction of the scope that looked at 2016. Nope, you’ve just decided that a quick run through the courts is all you need to declare the results legitimate. By the way, I guess we solved the whole Russian election interference thing, too? That’s just magically all good now, right?

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          • Avatarstingray65

            Hate to disagree with your Jeff, but the Russian collusion most certainly did happen. Hillary Clinton did pay for the Steele Dossier that was a collaborative effort with the Russians, and Russia paid Bill big money for speeches and made big contributions to the Clinton foundation, but for some strange reason the Mueller team never went down those Russian paths in their investigation.

          • AvatarNewbie Jeff

            “…but the Russian collusion most certainly did happen”

            Great point… the winds of “justice” seem to only blow in very predictable directions throughout our government, and then the sheep of the country act surprised when a fed up people finally go “BLM/Antifa” on the seat of that government..

          • Avatartrollson

            Well put. This is the result of the short attention span sensationalist propaganda “news cycle”. Recent history is quickly forced out of the low information memory banks by the latest sensational headline, reinforced and repeated in digital as well as offline echo chambers.

            But when these statements and convictions are even remotely questioned, there is no logical defense because they are only surface opinions, programmed by others without underlying foundations.

            Electronic election fraud has been with us since electronic voting machines were introduced. There were negative votes in the Bush v Gore election that were never explained. But since both “parties” benefit from this, it was never seriously investigated by anyone other than concerned citizens, and of course they have been all but ignored.

            This can only be solved by people from all sides of the political spectrum realizing that the elected officials are not representing any of us, and get together as Americans to solve it.

            But that won’t happen as long as the majority is perfectly content repeating shallow propaganda and refusing to think for themselves, despite the historically low barrier to doing your own basic research (for now).

          • AvatarFred Lee

            You are mis-representing reality.

            First, every US intelligence agency acknowledged that Russia *did* interfere with the US election on behalf of Trump. The US Senate Intelligence committee, run by Republicans, acknowledged that Russia *did* interfere with the US election on behalf of Trump. Trump’s campaign manager, Manafort, was intimately involved with Russian intelligence. Trump’s children and campaign staff met with Russian intelligence. None of this is in dispute. You should really read the Republican Senate Intelligence report, it’s breathtaking:

            https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

      • AvatarCoreytrevor

        Love all the concern for us city dwellers who actually lived down the block from actual rioting from the country bumpkin conservatives. Let me tell you, no one in the big cities was “cheering on’ the riots/looting, we were mad that assholes were co-opting a worthy cause. Destroying some property that cost about as much as one day of the Iraq war at its peak is not the same symbolically as trying to take over the halls of government because of some myth about a stolen election propagated by the loser.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          Corey – co-opting what worthy cause? BLM? Systemic Racism, Racist Police? Perhaps you are unaware that EVERY single death or injury that protesters were motived by have 1 or more of the following characteristics: aggressively resisting arrest, was involved in serious and violent criminal activity, was carrying or using a lethal weapon to hurt/kill the police, or had serious health problems such as obesity, heart disease, or drug overdose that was the primary cause of death. Statistically blacks are less likely to be injured or killed by police than whites on a per capita crime basis. Blacks are also the only group that government policies specifically endorse and encourage active favoritism in terms of admissions, hiring, and sentencing, and almost all HR departments and universities give favored treatment to. Blacks in the US have the highest standard of living, best health outcomes, and most educational attainment of blacks anywhere else in the world. So what exactly was worth burning down Kenosha, Minneapolis, and Portland supposed to accomplish?

          In contrast, there are a large number of real events and statistical anomalies with regards to the 2020 election results to conclude that fraud and other malfeasance very likely effected the outcome (see my comments throughout for more details). Concern about free and fair elections is a very worthy cause of protest in a functioning Democracy, and Democrats have protested in the streets and in Congress every winning Republican president since 1984. And since you obviously don’t like the Iraq war it seems a bit strange that you are happy to have the first president in decades to not involve the US in a war replaced by one who hasn’t never been on the winning side of any major foreign policy decision in 47 years of public service.

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          • AvatarFred Lee

            You sound like my angry grandpa. When an airplane crashes and hundreds of people die, he calls it divine justice. They were all guilty of something.

      • AvatarFred Lee

        I actually live right near one of those cities. To say democrats did nothing is untrue.

        The Democrat Governor of Oregon deployed the national guard and state police to help control riots in Portland. The Democrat Mayor of Portland gave the police broad discretion in handling the protests and riots. I’m no democrat but trust me, the democrats in these parts have no love for either the Governor nor the Mayor.

        You are incorrect to say that rioters and looters suffered no consequences. I can speak only for Portland but there were at least 1000 arrests, and around 100 prosecutions. The arrests tended to be indiscriminate which is why may were released. People were arrested with no evidence of wrongdoing. This is in stark contrast to the troves of evidence of wrong-doing at the Capitol Building. It is sickening to watch, and I had to turn it off, but there is video of a mob of Trump supporters murdering a police officer. There is video of armed Trump supporters engaging in combat with police inside the Capitol Building while legislators are being spirited away nearby.

        Apples and oranges.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      Of course you think “you guys” are nuts. All the media you consume tells you so. Similarly, “you guys” almost exclusively consume non-mainstream media that will often exaggerate a situation to get clicks.

      What you’re describing is the “two movies on a single screen” phenomenon. You can see just how strongly it applies to you by reading Scott Adams on the Fine People Hoax:

      https://www.scottadamssays.com/2019/04/30/the-fine-people-hoax-funnel/

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      • Avatarstingray65

        Jonathan Haidt (a committed Leftist academic) has done research on the ability of those on the Left and Right to accurately describe the other side’s point of view on various social justice and public policy issues. He found the Right can very accurately describe the Left’s position on systemic racism, abortion, patriarchy, gun control, taxation, etc. but the Left is completely unable to describe the Right’s position on the same issues beyond broad descriptors such as “evil”, “racist”, or “nuts”. Haidt doesn’t really delve into the reasons for this discrepancy, perhaps because it was a finding he wasn’t too pleased about, but it seems obvious to me.

        The Left can easily remain in a Leftist bubble by consuming only mainstream media, going to any K-12 school or university, watching most popular entertainment, or working in the many professions and industries that have gone woke, and of course social media understands their preferences and leanings and feeds them only the news and opinion that fits their Leftism. These things are virtually impossible for the Right, because all the media, entertainment, education, and woke professions and businesses and their Leftist broadcasting/indoctrination are impossible for the Right to avoid in their daily life, even as they put some extra effort in to seek out non-Leftist perspectives from Rush, Tucker, and the Baruth brothers.

        This discrepancy is also why the Left never wants a fair debate with any intelligent Right leaning person, because only the Right person has been exposed to both sides and has made a conscious decision to go against the flow and fly Right, which means a Leftist will almost always be on the losing side of any fair debate. This is why Chris Wallace was the “conservative” debate moderator in the first presidential debate instead of Tucker Carlson, because otherwise the Biden team would have never agreed to any debates knowing their man would struggle with any question tougher than his favorite color.

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        • Avatartankslapper

          Chris Wallace was selected as moderator because of his almost 50 years of experience as a credentialed political journalist, while Tucker Carlson was not because he is a talking head for conservative media editorial content, with no requirement for his content to adhere to any kind of journalistic integrity.

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      • AvatarNewbie Jeff

        “Similarly, “you guys” almost exclusively consume non-mainstream media…”

        Not myself. I almost exclusively consume mainstream media… Fox, NPR, Yahoo, Google news feeds… the difference between myself and the Widget guy is I understand that it’s overt political propaganda, he gets his “news I agree with”

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      • AvatarWidgetsltd

        Help us out then, man. Please! Where is the evidence of fraud? Maybe somebody, somewhere has laid it all out point-by-point? Meanwhile, such stalwart Trump supporters as (then) AG Barr indicated that systemic fraud capable of altering election results was not found. Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger is a Republican and has publicly stated that he is a Trump voter; do you really expect me to believe that he is aware of fraud in his state and is hiding it? That’s just not credible.

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        • Avatarstingray65

          I’ve provided lots of details about the evidence of fraud in my comments here. Where is your evidence that Barr was a stalwart Trump supporter? A Trump supporter would have arrested all the Obama administration and Clinton campaign members involved in the spying and treasonous attempts to sabotage the Trump campaign in 2016 and the Trump administration from 2017 to present. A Trump supporter would have followed Trumps directives to declassify information pertaining to Russiagate and other scandals and controversies. A Trump supporter would also have put some serious effort into investigating allegations of fraud in the 2020 elections. Raffensperger is paid to not have election fraud, and if fraud would be found his job, reputation, and perhaps his freedom would be threatened – he has lots of incentive to not find any evidence of fraud. Yet Georgia is probably the weakest state for proving fraud, as Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Wisconsin are all provide stronger cases for fraud and/or the illegal ignoring of election laws and state constitutions in dealing with mail-in ballots.

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          • Avatarhank chinaski

            Barr was hired to be the FBI’s janitor. Bury. Delay. Obfuscate. One of his early accomplishments was defending the Agent Horiuchi mentioned above from criminal prosecution for said murder.

        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          I took a few minutes today and read the various decisions. As noted before, the vast majority of dismissals have nothing to do with the evidence, but where they did have something to do with the evidence, they almost all followed the same boilerplate interaction:

          POWELL/GIULIANI/KRAKEN/WHATEVER: We allege that (Party X) performed (Action Y) to subvert the election.

          THE COURT: Well, Party X confirms that this is not the case.

          POWELL ET AL: But, but… Party X is a direct participant in, and cause, of the alleged fraud.

          THE COURT: What’s your point?

          In a few cases, the court didn’t even pretend to examine the evidence, as was the case in Arizona, where Forbes reports that

          ‘The judge said the hundreds of pages of affidavits and declarations the plaintiffs submitted as evidence of fraud were “only impressive for their volume,” and said Powell’s lawsuit was “void of plausible allegations that Dominion voting machines were actually hacked or compromised.”’

          It’s worth noting that at least one Dominion employee, Melissa Carone, came forward to testify under oath, only to be lampooned for her appearance and voice before being dismissed out of hand.

          Finally, there’s there infamous video of the fellow doing a thumb drive transfer on a Dominion system. We’re told that’s business as usual, the same way the suitcases under the table in Georgia were business as usual, but we aren’t told how videos of obviously questionable behavior correspond with the business-as-usual claims.

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          • Avatarstingray65

            The courts have really been cowards, but when the Antifa types get bussed in to pound on the a judge’s front door and scream obscenities in their front yard to scare family in order intimidate so that cases get decided in the Left’s preferred direction, it isn’t hard to see why they prefer to not get involved. It also is clear that their failure to even allow evidence to be presented in almost all the cases would suggest a great fear that such presentations would force them to render decisions that would favor Trump and arouse even greater threats from the Left and get them disinvited from the nice cocktail parties and kicked out of the posh country club.

            Some spine in the judges and a full and fair presentation of the facts by both sides followed by a law based judgment to determine the outcome would have washed 98% of the anger and frustration away from the Trump side no matter what the verdict, but only one outcome would have been satisfactory for the other side who are much better at making life hell for people they dislike. When fear and political bias are used to decide cases rather than laws and Constitutions, it is a sure sign the USA is now a full-fledged banana republic.

          • AvatarJohn C.

            Stingray, on this, you and Jack make a great point about the courts. Didn’t a lot of us worry that Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Amy two name would end up being Paul Ryan style two faced. You could see it in the kind of life they lead getting credentialed. I don’t believe the stuff Lynn Wood says about Roberts but he definitely is their judicial model. Remember the Federalist Society was supposed to provide a ready list of credentialed, easily confirmable, conservative judges. Instead we got George Conway and his brothers and sisters. Was the fights that the left put up against them all a false flag?

          • AvatarFred Lee

            I’m not sure of your legal background Jack, but maybe you can enlighten us on your credentials?

            I’m in the unfortunate position of living in a family full of lawyers. Siblings, parents, step-parents. Some Democrats, some Republican. Some Trump supporters, some Biden supporters. They’re all politically astute and pay assiduous attention to the goings-on

            The one thing they can all agree on is that the courts have been absolutely correct in their excoriation of the lawsuits brought by Powell, Lin, Giuliani, and friends. My step-dad was an ardent Giuliani supporter and a two-time Trump voter, and the disappointment at what Giuliani has become is palpable in his voice.

            The lawsuits have, all of them, been meritless. They are notable only in their volume, and this is intended precisely to have the effect that it clearly has had on you and others. “There are so many lawsuits”, they say, “There must be something there!”.

            Rules of evidence exist for a reason. Volumes of bogus evidence is no evidence. Every bit of evidence that has been examined has been found to be faulty of falsified.

            You have been lied to by President Trump and the GOP. It is unfortunate. It is sad. But it happened. An objective interpretation of the facts bears this out. You are smart enough to understand this and correct course. My fear is for the significant portion of the population that is not.

          • AvatarJohn C.

            If you thought true what you said above Fred, why aren’t you annoyed the Supremes didn’t rule on the merits of the Texas AG suit? instead they pussy footed anonymously on standing to sue. It’s as conservative court as it will ever be and yet it passed the buck, instead of saying in a definitive declaration of what you wanted to hear. Given what Roberts said about BLM riots, what does that tell you?

  20. AvatarJMcG

    This situation is amazingly similar to Spain in the early 30s. A country balanced on a knife edge. Election results widely viewed as illegitimate no matter who won. What looks to be a major leftist overreach coming down the road. Support for one side from the world’s most powerful Communist nation.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Good analogy, the USSR and Leftists from the Western world joined the Spanish Communists and some such as Orwell got very disillusioned by the experience. Hitler supported Franco and as the winner was the Fascist Left dictator who provided reasonably stable and unoppressive governance of Spain for the next 40 odd years (relative to what they would have had if the Communists had prevailed). China and Leftists from Europe and the Tech elite would no doubt be happy to provide support for Biden and the Democrats in a modern civil war with the Right, but would any outsiders help the good guys and which side would the US military support?

      I don’t see any outsiders helping the Right out at least not until it is clear that the Left soyboys cowering in starvation and without wifi connections in the major blue cities were on the verge of surrender. Did you see how much cheering Trump received at the Army-Navy game, so I’m pretty sure the rank and file would not support Biden. On the other hand, Mad Dog Mattis (who is on the China payroll) was very unhappy about the small uprising last week so I would expect the current woke military leadership would be all in supporting the Communists. In terms of police, I suspect they know which side will treat them with some respect and it ain’t the Democrats. So the side that controls almost the whole geography in terms of oil and food and industrial capacity, and where most of the people who support the 2nd amendment and own guns live would likely have the bulk of the US military and police, and Biden would have European soyboys, manly tech billionaires without a functioning power grid, and Chinese military a long long ways from home. Thus the outcome of the civil war is pretty clear, the problem is the winning side would likely be a bunch of wimps and let the losers live to protest, burn, loot and cheat in the future and we will be back where we started in 20 years or less.

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      • AvatarJMcG

        Well, to continue the analogy, Spain was in turmoil from the beginning of the 20th century til Franco settled the commies’ hash. The Basques initially came in on the side of the left because they wanted a separate nation. Their hearts weren’t really in it, because they were naturally conservative and very Catholic.
        The army in Spain was divided as well. Franco had been identified as a possible reactionary and sent to Spanish Morocco. He returned from there to take up the leadership of the Rebel forces.
        Russia was mainly in it for the money. As soon as they obtained the Spanish Gold reserves they pretty much lost interest in Spain. A few months after the end of the war, they signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Truly an exercise in cynicism.

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  21. Avatarkamember

    Amen to Brother Jack.

    Recently, it feels like I’m having tiny shreds of a beginning of success in getting to colleagues and friends who are DC area archetypes. The non-public figures didn’t start out with ill intentions. Just thinking “we’re the good guys” is a hell of a drug.
    It takes extreme patience in exposing the double standard and gaslighting, to get to de-escalation.
    But the alternative to the effort isn’t pretty.

    From ‘yclept’ a few weeks ago to ‘yeet’ today. Skylls!

    Peace

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  22. AvatarJMcG

    I haven’t registered to foment on Hagerty, but that was a really good article. My son watches a guy called Hoovie, who seems like a nice enough knucklehead. I don’t know his backstory, but he buys broken exotics and gets them fixed. He recently bought a Countach and was going through it. Well, let’s just say that no man is a hero to his valet. What a heap was attached to that sublime engine. It looked like a kit car.
    Miami Vice has a lot to answer for. Tubbs never looked like he could take a punch anyway.

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    • AvatarJohn C.

      Imagine the challenge at Chrysler engineering, After Chrysler bought Lambo from the Swiss guy, to turn the Countach into a real car. I consider it quite brave that they gave the result of their efforts a new name, Diablo. If only they could have ignored all the Alpine stereo posters and instead reverted to serious grand touring machines, as was the original intent of the founder, instead of Graham Greene style scary vacuum cleaners.

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  23. Avatargrey skies

    I thought Guiliani’s “trial by combat” comments were irresponsible and inflammitory.

    However the burning and looting of the BLM protests was far worse than what these protesters were doing, and it was not only tolerated, but encouraged.

    RIP to any who lost their lives

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  24. AvatarOscar Wilde

    Jack Baruth hs finally, totally, completey lost his fucking mind.

    And his small cadre of klingons continue to spiral downward into the rabbit hole.
    Watch video of the actions of the nutjob “protestors,” and you can’t objectively come to any conclusion that Trump and a small but very vocal portion of his loser dirtbag followers are absolutley unhinged, as they believe Trump will run cover for their actions (he did, by inciting them, then by making sure that multiple law enforcement officials’ calls for LEO reinforcements — Capital Hill PD, Secret Service, FBI, other county and state LEO — and mobilization of the Maryland National Guard per 5 requests of Republican Governor of Maryland were delayed for hours by Der Trump.

    Baruth, you are positively batshit crazy. These “protestors” beat Capital Hill Police officers, killing one, had gas masks, fuel cocktails, firearms, ammunition and zip ties, with the stated intent of detaining U.S. Senators on both sides of the political spectrum. The specifically threatened VP Pence with hanging.

    99% of the people here are fucking lunatics.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      I get the idea that you think I’m crazy (you said it twice) but I’m not sure what that has to do with the rest of what you typed.

      For every extreme statement you can attribute to the Capitol protestors, I can find five or ten by Antifa/BLM. Some dude in the crowd said they were going to hang Pence? There are a thousand people in Portland who say they will kill Trump.

      That being said, given your earlier comments on this site under different names I’m touched to see your sudden concern for VP Pence. As I recall, you thought he was the devil.

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      • AvatarNewbie Jeff

        “That being said, given your earlier comments on this site under different names I’m touched to see your sudden concern for VP Pence. As I recall, you thought he was the devil”

        Hmm… you don’t say…

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    • AvatarNewbie Jeff

      “99% of the people here are fucking lunatics”

      I would say a lunatic is someone who ignores months of coordinated insurrection in almost every major American city in their rant about “loser dirtbag” insurrection…

      Let’s be clear… Democrats across America incited an entire summer of “protests” that routinely devolved into riots and destruction magnitudes above what just happened in DC… a socialist city council member in Seattle not only led “protestors” into Seattle City Hall, but led a mob to the mayor’s personal residence while her family was at home. The same council member is widely understood to have incited the violent seige of the East Precinct in Capitol Hill (oh, the irony…) – the very definition of insurrection – but for some strange reasons, the FBI isn’t hunting down any of those insurrectionists… just the ones that hurt the feelings of Nancy Pelosi’s desk.

      This is not “what-about-ism”… it is directly relevant that Democrats tacitly or even overtly supported insurrection for months which has now resulted in a BLM-style “protest strategy” on the other side. Only a lunatic lives in a fabricated world of self-deception where he feels no need – or is literally incapable of the cognitive dissonance – to understand DC in its fullest context.

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      • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

        That’s a good point — there’s no sense in “whataboutism” or attempting to point out hypocrisy, because you won’t get anywhere with that.

        Rather, it’s worth noting that violent protest has become popularized and legitimized over the course of the past year.

        In much the same way that Kiss ended up recording a disco tune because it was disco time, you’re now going to see violent protest on both sides.

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        • Avatarredlineblue

          Yep. Sowing’s way more fun than reaping, idnit.

          I work at the Capitol (in a non-political capacity), and so I take it personally that ‘2 guys I used to chat up at the Senate door are dead because Protest’. Maybe I should have done more than say “assholes” and roll my eyes at Portland, or make cosplay jokes (and wonder what’d happen if non-whites tried it) at the MI state house. But anyone who applauded either of those actions helped 1/6 happen. Please be satisfied with your victory, and silent awhile.

          Pursuit of political ends through violence is the definition of terrorism. Which terrorists are okay with you?

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          • AvatarRedlineblue

            I’m just Howling. Prob’ly oughtnt use a keyboard to do it…
            (The “yep” was in response to your prediction about !both sides! voting via violence— keep the ‘y’ words; alliteration is mine)
            Peace. To all.

          • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

            I work at the Capitol </I

            Is the Deep State real, and do you aspire to be part of it?

            or make cosplay jokes (and wonder what’d happen if non-whites tried it) at the MI state house

            If I’m not mistaken, after folks protesting Gov. Whitmer legally carried guns into the capitol in Lansing, a group of armed black folks likewise exercised their own 2nd Amendment rights on the capitol grounds and nothing happened to them.

            When leftists invaded state legislatures in Wisconsin and Texas, did you say a word about it?

          • AvatarHarrison Bergeron

            We don’t have to wonder what would happen if black people did it, we already know. Shortly after the anti lockdown protest in Michigan there was a protest by black gun owners at the capital. Nothing happened to any of them. In protest after ahmaud was shot black gun owners patrolled and protested in the neighborhood. None of them was shot then either. All summer black protesters burned down businesses, stormed federal courthouses, burned down police stations, and even annexed part of a city. BLM members also assassinated police. They were all met with non-lethal options. On the other hand 4 unarmed Americans were killed by police at the capital. So miss me with that bullshit about what if they were black.

        • AvatarFred Lee

          Let’s not pretend that violent protest is new. And let’s also not equate the protests and riots in Portland and Minneapolis with that happened in DC, and with what Trump’s supporters are promising a week from now. World of difference. But you all know that.

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  25. AvatarCoreytrevor

    The right constantly groans about regulations, many of which are justified by corporate behavior, it’d be hypocritical for them to complain about private social media companies engaging in “censorship” now.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      Couple of things:

      0. There’s “the Right” and then there’s the Koch Bros. Conservative Inc. These two entities are of very different opinions on the topic of regulation. The former wants us to operate the country on moral principles. The latter wants a spiral of ever-lowering wages and taxes.

      1. Facebook and Twitter have repeatedly escaped legislation by claiming “common carrier” status, the same as the phone company… but they don’t ACT like the phone company. Not only do the tech firms eagerly apply ideological censorship, they actually force it on their customers (like Parler).

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      • Avatarcoreytrevor

        Hey you’re preaching to the choir on this topic, I consider myself well left of center, and I don’t think these companies should have the monopoly power they have AND be able to censor right wing voices. At the same time I roll my eyes at the people who supported Trump and his inane “eliminate 2 regulations for every 1 regulation” plan. Trump says great things about labor rights and fighting corporations, but most of his actions have been pretty pro-business.

        I come here to see a different point of view (as well as read your overall great writing) and I’m rarely disappointed. (Am not in this instance either re: this blog post)

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        • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

          When people analyze “The Trump Era”, I think what will most surprise them is that the Trump for whom people votes, and the Trump against whom everyone “resisted”, had very little to do with the Trump who actually legislated.

          The vast majority of his executive orders and contributions were pro-Israel, pro-Amazon, pro-bank. The populist MAGA Rally Trump only truly existed at MAGA rallies.

          He slowed the rate of increase of immigration, which I suppose is a miracle in the era of Cheap Labor Uniparty, and he offered some mild incentives for on-shoring, incentives that Mr. Biden would do well to continue but probably won’t.

          The “far-right” doesn’t idolize Trump: they think he’s a puppet of the Jews who emptied the prisons and sent more money to Israel than to the heartland.

          One of the ways in which I feel “the democrats left me” is with regards to tariffs and unions. There’s ample evidence that strong tariffs protect jobs and that strong unions protect communities — but the Democrats now bust unions and support free trade like they have Newt Gingrich running the DNC. I don’t understand it.

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          • Avatarstingray65

            The Democrats don’t care about private sector unions because they no longer have much financial or organizational value, and they have a down-scale “uneducated white male hick” image the Democrat leadership and big contributors want to stay away from. They’ve been replaced by the growing public sector and teacher’s unions who have far more members and money and are much easier to control and have a more upscale image, and by the tech billionaires who are big sources of campaign contributions and organizational influence in providing tech support for fund raising and ballot harvesting, and protecting Democrat candidates from their own scandals and failures by selectively censuring, demonetizing, and blocking content providers on their platforms. Tech billionaires are also anti-union.

          • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

            This is truly the Clown World definition of a union: instead of looking for an improvement in their working conditions, they are looking for Google/Alphabet to amplify their social-justice demands.

          • AvatarNewbie Jeff

            I’m in an airline pilot’s union, and one of the recent printed periodicals had an article written by a minority female pilot whose title included her preferred pronouns. She then lectures about the struggles of being a minority demographic in an industry that literally prioritizes hiring minority demographics over more qualified less-equal animals.

            No, the irony was not evident to her, although I’m sure it was to the white and male national leadership… who knows exactly what they’re doing. Never underestimate a bureaucracy’s primary directive to perpetuate itself above all things.

  26. AvatarKen

    I think you’ve identified this formula earlier, just need to update some input parameters; but the output is always the same.

    “Some souls are worth more than others. Deal with it.”

    “Sheryl Sandberg -> VIR Oak Tree -> dead people in plane”

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  27. AvatarYossarian

    It now seems inevitable that we will waste this decade on infighting only to wake up in 2030 to find ourselves living under chinese control.

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  28. Avatarhank chinaski

    https://www.wfmd.com/2021/01/09/teachers-in-jefferson-county-wv-that-attended-rally-at-the-capital-threatened-with-termination/
    West Virginia, no less, albeit the panhandle.

    Rally attendees are also ending up on the no fly list.

    I’m too lazy to dig it up, but recall one of Jack’s old articles with the recaptioned Calvin and Hobbes piece, “When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.”

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    • Avatarstingray65

      Must be party of those Democrat unification efforts. Biden said he was going to work harder for the people who didn’t vote for him than the people who did, which sounds nice and heartwarming and welcoming, but really means he will work hard to set the machinery of law enforcement, IRS, and labor in motion to track down and punish anyone who doesn’t support the Leftist agenda. He doesn’t have to work hard for the people who voted for him, because they are already dead or non-living pre-filled out ballot printing machines.

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  29. AvatarDisinterested-Observer

    At the risk of being labeled something or other, 549 denizens of Washington DC swinging from lamp posts would be a good start.

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  30. AvatarDirty Dingus McGee

    And so it begins.

    https://www.newsandguts.com/video/prosecutors-expect-to-arrest-hundreds-tied-to-capitol-siege-significant-cases-of-sedition-conspiracy/

    I’m sure they will get the same treatment as rioter’s across the country got this past year: Released on no bail/bonded out by a “crowd funded” legal fund, charges dropped by activist DA’s, more protest’s calling for the release of ALL arrested, etc.

    The double standard is getting so obvious even Stevie Wonder can see it.

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    • Avatarstingray65

      If they are going to have their lives ruined for taking some selfies in the Capital or attending the rally, they should have committed a real service to the country and done some witch burning – pretty much the whole Congressional delegation and if they lived through the fire it would prove they are not satanic witches.

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  31. AvatarCoreytrevor

    Dude you need to chill, attacking the conduits of corporate interests isn’t going to change anything. Replacing congress with randomly selected people would long term have the same results as long as corporate interests are allowed to have such influence in our political system.

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  32. Avatarhank chinaski

    ‘Weaponized autism’ is doing what it does best and has reportedly identified the shooter (by his characteristic wrist jewelry) to be ‘allegedly’ a ‘Special Agent David Bailey’. He happens to have been the agent on Scalise’s detail when that shooting went down.

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    • AvatarRedlineblue

      So, someone who’s trained in the use of lethal force enters a restricted federal building via a window and makes her way to a defended door. Beyond it are several armed agents protecting several members of the United States Congress, including Steve Scalise, *who’s been shot by a …”protester” “, before. And in front of the door is David Bailey. Who probably knows that 2 competent bombs were found nearby about an hour ago, and that at least one USCP officer has been badly injured. (The MPD officer didn’t get her eye gouged out until later).

      What’s the name of whoever killed Brian Sicknick?

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    • AvatarRonnie Schreiber

      If I’m not mistaken, it was local cops who stopped James Hodgkinson’s attempt to assassinate Republicans, not anyone from their security detail.

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      • Avatarhank chinaski

        Bailey was there, and got a medal for it. I’d not be surprised if he gets one for murdering Ms. Babbitt.

        Video of the fire extinguisher assault has been posted by the Daily Mail, showing the protestor pitching it into a scrum of riot gear clad police from about ten feet away, arcing and bouncing off one or more of them. With the ease he throws it, it’s likely empty.

        I’ll add that weeks of Yellow Vest rioting in Paris were all but memory holed in US press. Hong Kong got sparse coverage. Ukraine and Belarus, lots.

        There are nearly 30K National Guard troops in DC right now.

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  33. AvatarDisinterested-Observer

    Jack-

    I know this is ancient history in Internet terms but I just saw this on reddit:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/l084n4/give_this_social_media_person_a_raise/

    Of course it will come a surprise to absolutely none of your readers to learn than unlike the evil My Pillow guy employing 1500 Americans in small town Minnesota, “One Fresh Pillow” is proudly made the glorious socialist paradise of the People’s (sic) Republic of China.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      That’s the way it should be, because if you give jobs to white trash they’ll just spend that money on families and homes and trucks and churches, right? Whereas with “One Fresh Pillow” you know your money is going to people who don’t even feel real to you!

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  34. AvatarKeaton Lamle

    “we all know that America’s “cancel culture” only really works in one direction.”

    I don’t think that’s true at all. In the last week alone, Wil Wilkerson, Lauren Wolfe, and Chris Stirewalt have all gotten fired for Making Conservatives Mad.

    Wolfe, from the NYT for tweeting about her “chills” during the Biden nomination, Stirewalt from Fox News for calling Arizona too early, and Wilkerson for an off-color joke highlighting how little conservatives and liberals both like Mike Pence. You’re getting into Tucker Carlson level “bUt ThE lEfT!” schtick, on that line, Jack.

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    • Jack BaruthJack Baruth Post author

      I’m not talking about occasional high-profile people as much as I’m talking about real life.

      The past twelve years have made it plain that Tweeting “#fucktrump” is acceptable, but Tweeting “#fuckobama” will get you fired.

      In my business, there’s a writer (Brett Berk) who regularly tags pictures of $200,000 press cars with “#FUCKTRUMP”. No pushback whatsoever.

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  35. AvatarFuck Trump

    Bitch deserved it. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Charles Whitman, Lee Harvey Oswald and Tim McViegh were veterans too. SO FUCKING WHAT? They should be held to a HIGHER standard, not allowed to break the law because they were too fucking stupid and poor to do anything else. Fuck her and fuck you stupid trumpers. The only issue I have is that more of you fuckwits weren’t shot. Fucking dumb bitch. And fuck all of you dumb white trash, sibling fucking, mouth breathing, dipshit, fuckwit, redneck, hillbilly pieces of shit. You are all fucking SCUM. Subhuman filth and scum.

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